And Steiner said:

Not Without Love nor Reason(s)/ Dottie do(es)

 

From: danifyou
Date: Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:49 am
Subject: Not Without Love nor Reason(s)/ Dottie do(es)

...We vote for the one who has Heart
We vote for the one who is pleasant!

Refreshing Dottie Friend - of the Grail Mysteries -
I had pleasure and honor (to you) the name yours
In a recent post to associate with Diotima
Butterfly-like the remembrance Flower of Sophia!

You led me once again to take my January 10 Book
Of Prokofieff the readings accurate not many could
Effectuate such a work as he did verily so Beautiful!

So to quote now I have thought a relevance -
Answer particular to your questionment
To find what is sought soon - rather than later
Also soothe; a Breath of Peace in us to enter
Working against the frenzy animalistic detrimental
Rubbishness of the Whoring of the Planet
Becomes a place where the masses
Become not one footed Brahman
Of the Second Floor entrance; instead
Tendency operate they lock themselves
Matrixial-like (survey '2010..' sequel of '..Space Odyssey'
To discover the meaning of the MOON of Jupiter--The Future
Was used the name 'Europa' the Code tiz 'Erbe' -
'Dark One', we to not go there - for it is Death -
Why should we while we have all the Cosmos
For us the many mansions Beauteous and non Beast-like...
So to choose the Sun instead, Warmth, Love and Light!

'Eternal Individuality' - Now Prokofieff...:

In the sense of what has been said in the present chapter, this means that the future of mankind depends upon whether the SOCIAL [my emphasis] structure of modern times, whih has been created and directed principally by its masculine element, will be able to save from degeneration that womanhood towards which the mightiest destructive forces of modern times are directed, forces whose OBJECT [my emphasis] it is to prevent the emergence of the sixth cultural epoch onto the stage of earthly evolution. Thus a decisive precondition for its coming into being will be that humanity's masculine element is able to protect the spirit-soul and physical being of woman and hence, also the spiritual potential for the future that rest within her organism."

Steiner him, said:

"woman has the inclination to unite herself ever more and more with extra-terrestrial processes."
;"to be drawn up into the heavenly worlds."

...'ENERGIZE'... ;)
Prokofieff again:

"when the human word -- permeated by spiritual will -- is able to become creative even to the extent of physical substances, a stage which in Rosicrucian school has always been marked by the symbol of the fiery, two edged sword or the lance of light. Simulteanously with this, the human heart, too, undergoes a complete transformation through the working of the mysteries of prebirth (or of the Sophia)."

DF: We ourselves of the Romantic
KA-rest in kisses supersensible Solar Breeze;
...'Beautiful Lily and Green Serpent' a tale
Of transformation potent - discover the portal
Venusian of the Real Love Parsifal-important!

Shakespeare also mightily knew of this:
SP (polar to PS):

"the word will be able to work in the world, as the revelation of his higher ego, like a fiery, two-edged sword which unerringly divides good from evil in the moral sphere."

...That which brings us back to Timoteo Viti's
'Agony in the Garden' and the 'Knight's Dream'
Midsummer Etheric Potency of the Summer
Festival made a Righteous Fire of Liberty!

Danny

----Message original -----
De : dottie zold

Hey Bradford,

I agree with all you said in this post and see it in the same light as you. Here's my question: What would the brotherhoods hope to acomplish by taking over the world on this level?

See, we saw the brotherhood at work keeping Sophia underwraps and any good thing pertaining to the feminine aspect of our spiritual work. There was a fight of sorts as Dr. Steiner explains it and I understand it. Now, I can understand looking back why this was and unto what however I am wondering what is in it for the brotherhoods and Americanism? What is the higher picture? What are they looking for in the end run? What is the highest ideal of them hoping to achieve? What does this have to do with the sixth epoch?

These questions are important so we do not get stuck in the todayness of things? Of course we have to handle what we have to handle but I believe we must do it with steadfastness of our spiritual understandings won by our perserverance on the path. To get lost in the violence and ignorance of those in office now would throw us from what is really trying to be heard? It's not how bad they are and so forth, I think it is more like where do we want to lead and why do we want to lead? What is the honey at the end of the pot?

I grieve for those beautiful faces I see on the screen. And I trust it as well. But I do not want to stay in it. So, how do we affect change without us becoming the very enemy we say we oppose? How do we not anihilate that which takes pleasure in anihilating? How do we not become like them by playing their division game. There must be a balance and I believe this is what the word 'righteousness' refers to. It is not a weakness no it is a steadfastness in knowing we know more than we are able to record in this present time. We are spiritual beings and we are called to know this precisely in this lifetime. We are to wake up to the all present Love and radiate this on the planet. We must try very hard to overcome that which will pull us down like the others. We must not fall asleep to Love and our birthright as the heirs to Christ. We are of His lineage and so we must purport ourselves to the best of our ability.

When you say not a cakewalk how right you are. And, it is this very fight that we gird ourselves for now. But not in rage and anger and judgement, rather in Love. Love is the most powerful force that exists, so I believe. And it is this we are called to with all our might. And no, it is not a cakewalk either.

Love to you,
Dottie

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:32 am
Subject: Re: Not Without Love nor Reason(s)/ Dottie do(es)

Danny:

Shakespeare also mightily knew of this:
SP (polar to PS):

"the word will be able to work in the world, as the revelation of his higher ego, like a fiery, two-edged sword which unerringly divides good from evil in the moral sphere."

Hey Danny,

This brings to mind what our true task is in my understanding: using our sword of light, which we each bear within, to slowly 'enlighten' the dragon that is within us. And when we do, we will stand taller in stature and almost reach the heavens, for our shadow has now been transformed, and not only will it not take away from us any more but it will add measure.

And to me these are those most important tasks we face as Steiner students: transforming transforming transforming ourselves. And when we do this, we will be able to lead the people to their own inner freedom just by being a living example of the true Word that exists in each of us: the Cosmic Word will have become flesh within and there will be no mistaken It.

Happy Sunday,

Dottie

p.s. I noticed the D(i)ottima the other day but wasn't so sure about what it was so I let it slide, :)

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:38 am
Subject: Re: Not Without Love nor Reason(s)/ Dottie do(es)

'Eternal Individuality' - Now Prokofieff...:

In the sense of what has been said in the present chapter, this means that the future of mankind depends upon whether the SOCIAL [my emphasis] structure of modern times, whih has been created and directed principally by its masculine element, will be able to save from degeneration that womanhood towards which the mightiest destructive forces of modern times are directed, forces whose OBJECT [my emphasis] it is to prevent the emergence of the sixth cultural epoch onto the stage of earthly evolution. Thus a decisive precondition for its coming into being will be that humanity's masculine element is able to protect the spirit-soul and physical being of woman and hence, also the spiritual potential for the future that rest within her organism."

Danny, thank you for this. I have been thinking this morn of exactly how this ties in and what I have come to is the idea that the spiritual aspect within us all is in danger of degeneration which has been the point since the beginning of the seperation. I don't think of it as a physical feminine degeneration, rather it is a spiritual degeneration.

To me, these warring men are being seduced by Luci. She is drawing them out towards destruction as she laughs at their stupidity of thinking they can lord over all including Her and the World. They have been seduced and it is going to kick their asses as can be seen by the Muslims that are not for Osama and the Christians that are counter to George Bush. The seduction of war is the seduction to believe in ones own power with the help of God. Lucy's the stand in and is a powerful ego buste if one is awake enough to her seductive powers.

And we are all open to this seduction as can be seen in Eclesiastics. The fools are kings and the kings are fools. Who thinks he is a wise man is a fool. Keeps us all in balance if we are truly looking for experiencing Christ and then expressing it. The next test would be how we then treat others who think differently than us after we have won our wisdom. The game is not over yet. This is where Lucy comes in as she gives one enough rope to hang oneself. A great book that speaks to this was written by Paulo Cuhuelo(sp:( called, well I can not think of it right now I will have to check my mini library. But what happens in the first or second scene is a big whump on the head when we realize we may have chosen the exact decision as he in that moment. It all comes back to Eclesiastics.

Happy Sunday again,
d

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From: danifyou
Date: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:43 am
Subject: Rép. Re: Not Without Love nor Reason(s)/ Dottie do(es)

----Message original -----
De : dottie zold

Danny:

Shakespeare also mightily knew of this:
SP (polar to PS):

"the word will be able to work in the world, as the revelation of his higher ego, like a fiery, two-edged sword which unerringly divides good from evil in the moral sphere."

Hey Danny,

This brings to mind what our true task is in my understanding: using our sword of light, which we each bear within, to slowly 'enlighten' the dragon that is within us. And when we do, we will stand taller in stature and almost reach the heavens, for our shadow has now been transformed, and not only will it not take away from us any more but it will add measure.

Redemptive activity of the SON
Your take on Righteousness was Sound
Objective we will Encounter it around;
The Luke of Star Wars make sense
In that connection Bradford told previous
About the Hatred and the Cold Moral -
That which is picturesque also what Steiner said
When he uttered that the etheric body is made
Out of heads and the physical one of horns!
So indeed we do Redeem Strong
When with Light and Love we cast
A Beam over the DARK WORLD OF MATTER
Which include of course the Trapped Elementals!

Dottie:

And to me these are those most important tasks we face as Steiner students: transforming transforming transforming ourselves. And when we do this, we will be able to lead the people to their own inner freedom just by being a living example of the true Word that exists in each of us: the Cosmic Word will have become flesh within and there will be no mistaken It.

Indeed!
A stance lovely stand - there you have taken;
Whoever has not lost in mind; by it will be taken! :)
Not in the sense of course Extra-Terrestrial
Little green ones in a flying saucer...
Rather with the Fire of the Leaping Flame Mary-Vestal
We Enter-Invest our body material
With Transubstantiation Power!

And lo! Rejuvenation of Humanity, "to Dolphin";
Light-Waterescent Vita Blue-White-Essence
You said it 'Rebirth' within the Womb of Sophia -
The Nathan Soul and Work of the Angels
This ASTRAL reach our NERVOUS SYSTEM!

MYSTERIOUS Music Healing Force
Medecine over Sclerosis
Revelatory words of buffo
Ringo Starr Beatle...
And right after, Classical
George (S.) Martin!

R: Its not like "Oh we've changed a note"...
We've changed the whole thing --
Working on it and changing it.

GM: One of the strenghts of the Beatles was that they had Eternal Curiosity -- an Eternal Quest for something New.
Exhaustively so for me -
I mean they were always saying:
"What New Sound can we have?"
"What other New Instruments do you know?"
"What can you do to make this Sound Better?"
"Give me a Different Sound in the Voice..."

They were not content with what they had yesterday...

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Impulse Progressive - Freedom over Humanity;
Nice work of Collaboration between
The re-viewed Classical + Modernity!
Makes me think of these two streams
In which we find ourselves
Ecce Homo like the Representative of Man -
As you said Dottie the Core of the Work
Is Transformation must be done; we Clock
According to the Impulse of the Turning Point!

Happy Sunday,

Dan

p.s. I noticed the D(i)ottima the other day but wasn't so sure about what it was so I let it slide, :)
But this Fish stayed did not let you go...
The Ether Zone Glow Neo
Our Role - Make it so;
Zoological pertinent though -
The Astral Light becomes our Home also! :)

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