Divine Sophia/Transparent Child
From: holderlin66
Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 12:06 pm
Subject: Divine Sophia/Transparent Child
--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
dottie zold wrote:
Bradford wrote:
That Rosenkreuz would become the transparent,
Star Child of the Christ, human prototype.
Dear Dottie;
First go here:
http://www.skylarkbooks.co.uk/Shop/media/The_Secret_Stream.htm
But let me add my two cents before we introduce
a Steiner quote. Firstly, at the Chymical Wedding Party held
by the Virgin, it is indeed true to say, and I include myself
in this, that the WC and the Right Wing would not be worthy of
the presumption of an invitation. It is a tough yet easy attitude
to maintain. None of us are worthy, and especially at the level
of attack dog intellect inspired on the W.C. from even approaching
the mystery that Steiner reveals below.
Now as to the transparent child..Kubrick,
at the threshold of the space age and in many instances caught
glimpses of this even in his mighty transparent Child who had
been the child we will refer to in the following quote. This
child is the weaver of all the streams and became the vehicle
model for every pathway of initiation carried in any human being
that shall ever live.
Nothing of what follows can even be raised
on the WC list or anywhere else because of the profound implications
and weaving trails through history that explode in the faces
of those with shrunken heads. There is a blood trail that leads
through Transylvania and there is a Gold trail that leads to
the refined throne forces of the Etheric Christ. It comes to
the Thrones and Christ pressing the blood of Jesus with such
Solar compression that the entire DNA and Chromosome structure
was re-strung down to the marrow of the bones.
Mysteries of this magnitude are for everybody,
but if the intellect is such a piece of Santa Coal and their
stockings are still stuffed with coal instead of the Christimas
Spirit, one can say, shake the dust off our heels and screw em.
A refined gold dew that lives in the butterfly
chrysalis and the entombment of the caterpillar is the etheric
living gold that also was targeted for Lazarus. STicking to this
point, it is very clear that the eyes of the transformed soul,
obviously transformed, awoke a a living reality for Magdalene
to be the first to speak, have words, and be called by the Risen
Christ. Even if Mary was the sister of Laz, Laz was a key Initiation
event that put Christ on a scale well above all mere teachers
of Occultism and thereby, shook the world and the John Gospel
and Revelation attests to this targeted Initiation model.
Valentin Andrea who befriended Francis Bacon
and Bacon's mirage having been thought to be the writer of Shakespeare's
plays reveals that Rosenkreuz sent a letter, a note to Bacon
through Andrea that the lesson of Rosicrucianism is exactly as
Aristotle/Steiner said it was and not as Lord Bacon, who was
Haroun al Raschid assumed. This bitter dispute of the Intellect
between Bacon and Steiner has rocked education and Science to
this day. Bitter, bitter fruits of failed vision have been harvested
and used by non-existant Ahrimanic Beings. Founding the nuclear
age of anti-light was one of the bastard still born children
of Ahrimanic intent. Therefore the secret text of the Rosicrucians
was shuttled over to Bacon and behind it all was someone who
the Lord really loved, John/Lazarus.
Steiner;
In the thirteenth century,
spiritual darkness fell for a time upon all human beings, even
the most enlightened, and also upon the Initiates. Whatever knowledge
of the spiritual worlds existed in the thirteenth century came
from tradition or from men who in still earlier times had been
Initiates and were able to call up remembrances of what they
had then experienced. But for a brief space of time it was impossible
even for these men to have direct vision of the spiritual world.
Darkness was obliged to fall
for this short period in order that preparation might be made
for the intellectual culture which was to be characteristic of
our modern age. The point of importance is that we have this
kind of culture today in the Fifth post-Atlantean epoch. Culture
in the Greek epoch was quite different.
Instead of the modern, intellectual
kind of thinking, direct perception was then the dominant faculty;
the human being was one, as it were, with what he saw and heard,
even with what he thought. He did not cogitate and reason as
he does today, and needs must do, for this is the task of the
Fifth post-Atlantean epoch.
In the thirteenth century,
it was necessary for especially suitable personalities to be
chosen out for Initiation, and the Initiation itself could only
take place after that brief period of darkness had come to an
end. The name of the place in Europe where the happenings of
which I am about to speak came to pass cannot yet be communicated,
but before very long this too will be possible.
We shall, speak today of the
dawn of occultism in the modern age. Twelve men were living at
the time of the darkness, twelve men of deep spirituality who
came together in order to further the progress of humanity. They
did not all of them possess the power of direct vision of the
spiritual world, but they were able to bring to life within them
remembrances of what they had experienced through earlier Initiation.
And by the dispensation of the karma of humanity, the heritage
left by the ancient culture of Atlantis was embodied in seven
of these twelve men.
In my book Occult Science
it is said that the seven wise Teachers of the ancient, holy
Indian civilisation bore within them the surviving wisdom of
Atlantis. The seven men were incarnated again in the thirteenth
century and formed part of the Twelve; it was they who were able
to look back to the seven streams of the ancient Atlantean wisdom
and to the continuations of these seven streams. The task assigned
to each of these seven individualities was to make one of the
seven streams of wisdom fruitful both for the culture of the
thirteenth century and of our modern age.
These seven individualities
were joined by four others; unlike the first seven, these other
four were not able to look back to times of the primeval past;
they looked back to what mankind had acquired from occult truths
during the four epochs of post-Atlantean culture. The first of
the four looked back to the period of ancient India, the second
to that of ancient Persia, the third to that of Egyptian- Chaldean-Babylonian-Assyrian
culture, and the fourth to that of the Graeco-Latin age. These
four joined the seven in that "College" of wise men
in the thirteenth century; the twelfth had fewer remembrances;
he was more intrinsically intellectual than the rest and it was
his task to cultivate and foster the external sciences.
["...his task to cultivate and foster
the external sciences." Friends, humility, is humility and
here is an indication of someone is truly quietly devoted in
the league of Amazing Gentleman. I realize of course that for
Dottie there are not enough women here to be politically correct.
However my point is for the reader to learn to read between the
lines.]
These twelve individualities
did not live only in the sphere of occultism as cultivated in
the West, but could also be "incorporated" as it were
in men who possessed some genuine knowledge of occultism. Goethe's
poem Die Geheimnisse [footnote:
The Mysteries by Rudolf Steiner] gives a certain indication of this. -
[Please Note: The League Of Extraordinary
Gentlemen]
Thus there were twelve outstanding
individualities and to them came a Thirteenth who, after the
period of darkness had come to an end was to be chosen out for
the kind of Initiation demanded by the culture of the West. The
circumstances are very mysterious and I can only give you the
following information in the form of a narrative. To me it is
objective truth, but you yourselves can put it to the test by
gathering together what has been said by anthroposophical Spiritual
Science during the last few years, added to what you know of
history since the thirteenth century.
It was known to the College
of the twelve wise men that a child was to be born who had lived
in Palestine at the time of Christ and had been present when
the Mystery of Golgotha had taken place. This Individuality possessed
great powers of heart and a quality of deep, inward love which
circumstances had since helped to unfold in him.
An Individuality of extraordinary
spirituality was incarnated in this child. It was necessary,
in this case, for a process to be enacted which will never be
repeated in the same form. The following does not describe a
typical Initiation but is an altogether exceptional happening.
It was necessary for this child to be removed from the environment
into which he was born and to be placed in the care of the Twelve
at a certain place in Europe. But it was not the external measures
adopted by the twelve wise men that are of essential importance;
what is important is the fact that the child grew up with the
Twelve around him, and because of this, their wisdom was able
to stream into him.
One of the Twelve, for example,
possessed the Mars-wisdom and therewith a definite quality of
soul - a mood-of-soul tempered by the form of culture standing
under the influence of Mars. The forces of the Mars culture endowed
this soul with the faculty, among others, of presenting the occult
sciences with fiery enthusiasm and ardour.
Similar planetary influences
were also at work in other faculties distributed among the Twelve.
The development of the child's soul proceeded harmoniously under
the influences pouring from the twelve wise men. And so the child
grew up, under the unceasing care of the Twelve.
Then, at a certain time, when
the child had grown into a young man of about 20, he was able
to give expression to something that was a kind of reflex of
the twelve streams of wisdom - but in a form altogether new,
new even to the twelve wise men. The metamorphosis was accompanied
by violent organic changes. Even physically the child had been
quite unlike other human beings; he was often very ill and his
body became transparent, as though filled with light.
[for the those who fail to attach wonder to
their eyeballs - TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENT]
Then there came a time when
for some days the soul departed altogether from the body. The
young man lay as if dead ... And when the soul returned it was
as though the twelve streams of wisdom were born anew. He spoke
of new experiences. There had come to him, from the Mystery of
Golgotha, an experience similar to that of Paul before Damascus.
Thereby it was possible for all the twelve world- conceptions,
religious and scientific - and fundamentally there are only twelve
- to be gathered together, synthesised in one.
The twelve basic world-conceptions
were gathered together into one whole which could do justice
to them all. Of what was taught we shall speak the day after
tomorrow. It remains now to be said that the young man died very
soon afterwards. His life on Earth had been brief. His mission
had been to create a synthesis of the twelve streams of wisdom
in the sphere of thought and to bring forth the new impulse which
he could then bequeath to the twelve wise men who were to carry
it further. A great and significant impetus had been given. The
name of the Individuality from whom this impulse originated was
Christian Rosenkreutz.
Bradford concludes;
We have here a new meaning of the 12 days
of Christmas that are known as the Holy Nights. It comes to us
to weigh up what is being said here. We Humans on Earth are fueled
by a Power cell of raw en-Throned Love that is the Risen Christ.
Okay.. but now, when you follow the rebuilding of the human prototype,
we see that the entire new genetic and supersensible model of
Initiation has been woven into the Rosenkreutz Being.
As a Human, Buddha attained above Angel to
humanized planetary regent of Mars under the guiding impulse
of the Earth centered Christ Being. Rosenkreutz at the level
of humanized Archai along with the Archai Michael and the entire
Michael/Sophia school are in a new form of cosmos building. Compare
this to the much bandied about concept of Nation building. Rosenkreutz
can intervene as a divine factor in human destiny. He can actually
catch people before and at the brink of death to change their
lives and allow them to see the Spiritual World. Check all of
your Near Death Experience testimonies.
But to understand the new Initiation Model
of humanity and the new path to achieving transformed Astral,
Etheric and Physical phantom form or ATma...we have some very
interesting new management to deal with, along with the constant
Archai meddling of the Ahrimanic in the human Intellect. This
Ahrimanic in the human intellect is nursed on the bitter gall
that is fed out of the WC and the current Right Wing. It was
laid in the ancient foundations of Nominalistic thinkers and
it fairly well divided the thinking capacities of the human race.
So something new is happening the cosmos and
these actions by the most powerful Initiates, counter act the
most dreadful dark brotherhoods so that even today the place
where this happened is still not named. Why, who wants the dark
occult sniffing brotherhoods to go sifting through the astral
location for clues? Let is rest on the side of the good.
Bradford
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From: dottie zold
Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Divine Sophia/Transparent
Child
Bradford wrote:
["...his task to cultivate and foster the external sciences."
Friends, humility, is humility and here is an indication of someone
is truly quietly devoted in the league of Amazing Gentleman.
I realize of course that for Dottie there are not enough women
here to be politically correct. However my point is for the reader
to learn to read between the lines.]
Dear Bradford,
Politically correct has nothing to do with
it. You just don't get it but that's okay, it's on you. Have
you read Manley P. Halls Trinosophia recently?
What makes you possibly think it could be
male on male? Looking at a prototype do you envision male on
male? Not even a possibility. We are heading back to the spiritual
aspect of who we are which is male/female made in the image of
God.
A woman is needed in these mysteries. There
is no way around it. You can look to the ancient near east and
you will find the Lotus, a feminine symbol, to be the All and
yes She is potrayed by a female not a male. Do you not know your
history when it comes to the Feminine Divine. If not may I suggest
your start, with Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization
by Heinrich Zimmer, edited by Joseph Campbell. And then you might
consider looking at The Divine Feminine by Englesman where you
will find all the coverups beginning with Philo.
Speaking of prototype have you a clue what
that is going to look like? I believe we only need to look in
Genesis to see. And Da Vinci knew of what he painted. Who will
paint this new mystery that is making its way to the forefront
of our consciousness. Who will be the first one of todays artists
to paint the Magdalene/John mystery? I have seen it in the old
masters but I await this new artists to shake the foundations
of consciousness.
The Star Child of all males. Preposterous.
Do you not remember how w3e are going to create in the future?
And that will be of the two lines rejoined.
Thanks for the book, I bought it last week
and just do not have time to read it yet. I am now on Steiners
Revelations.
In regards to the critics I take issue with
one and he is not a parent critic he is a self proclaimed historian
twisting the words of Dr. Steiner into a holocaust collaboration.
I find that the parents had legitimate concerns that then turned
into a more confrontational meanspirited mess as words got flung
back and forth at warp speed.
And it seems to be true that many of that
list do not follow any particular spiritual understanding and
that is where the problem lay with them enrolling their children
into a Waldorf education. So, if anything, I think this issue
will be cleared up due to their comments and fight to make sure
that Waldorf is presented as a school that promotes the body
soul and spirit understanding of the world and they base Steiners
spiritual work as the foundation. And hopefully all the demonizing
interpretations will fade away.
Sincerely,
Dottie
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From: dottie zold
Date: Wed Dec 24, 2003 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Divine Sophia/Transparent
Child
Bradford sharing Dr. Steiners words:
It was known to the College
of the twelve wise men that a child was to be born who had lived
in Palestine at the time of Christ and had been present when
the Mystery of Golgotha had taken place. This Individuality possessed
great powers of heart and a quality of deep, inward love which
circumstances had since helped to unfold in him.
Dottie
Okay Bradford, lets look at what attributes
this person has:
This individuality possessed
great powers of heart and a quality of deep, inward love which
circumstances had since helped to unfold in him.
Who possibly could this be other than who
you and most claim it to be? And lets look below.
An Individuality of extraordinary
spirituality was incarnated in this child. It was necessary,
in this case, for a process to be enacted which will never be
repeated in the same form. The following does not describe a
typical Initiation but is an altogether exceptional happening.
It was necessary for this child to be removed from the environment
into which he was born and to be placed in the care of the Twelve
at a certain place in Europe. But it was not the external measures
adopted by the twelve wise men that are of essential importance;
what is important is the fact that the child grew up with the
Twelve around him, and because of this, their wisdom was able
to stream into him.
Dottie
What other child had Wisdom streamed into
him during Golgotha? And of what line is this? And then what
happens to the 'I' of said person when accepting the Christ?
Where does that 'I' stream to?
Lets look below again:
Then, at a certain time,
when the child had grown into a young man of about 20, he was
able to give _expression to something that was a kind of reflex
of the twelve streams of wisdom - but in a form altogether new,
new even to the twelve wise men."
Dottie
Here is the clincher:
The metamorphosis was accompanied
by violent organic changes. Even physically the child had been
quite unlike other human beings; he was often very ill and his
body became transparent, as though filled with light."
Bradford: [for the those who fail to attach
wonder to their eyeballs - TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENT TRANSPARENT]
Dottie
Yes, Bradford, but what other than becoming
TRANSPARENT happened? Do you realize what happened here that
had never happened before on the physical plane? Do you know
what is alluded to here?
Merry, Merry, Merry, Merry Christmas,
Dottie
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From: holderlin66
Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 3:01 pm
Subject: Re: Divine Sophia/Transparent Child
--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
holderlin66
In my book Occult Science
it is said that the seven wise Teachers of the ancient, holy
Indian civilisation bore within them the surviving wisdom of
Atlantis. The seven men were incarnated again in the thirteenth
century and formed part of the Twelve; it was they who were able
to look back to the seven streams of the ancient Atlantean wisdom
and to the continuations of these seven streams. The task assigned
to each of these seven individualities was to make one of the
seven streams of wisdom fruitful both for the culture of the
thirteenth century and of our modern age.
Bradford comments;
Everywhere we turn in Spiritual Science rich
themes approach us. Stunning themes. The problem in thinking
through Spiritual Science insights, is that we encounter mental
glue, people stuck and unable to waltz the waltz and dance the
dance with Dr. Steiner. That is partly the reason why such a
remarkable legacy remains stuck in the thinking glue of conservative
Anthro dogma.
New Year should allow, not the nuts out of
the closet, but the thinking that Joel and Tarjei and Ben Aarron
as well as Boardman and thousands of other voices have pioneered.
We need the fresh vision and voices to speak to our culture,
to speak with our culture. It requires homework to see the difference
in Symptomology between Lucifer and Ahriman. This is basic 101
and certainly Fundie dogma fills the brains of most people as
they confuse even this clear division.
But here is something:
Dr. Steiner seldom reported
the association of specific stars with zodiac signs. One of the
few instances I have found occurred on 18 Dec. 1910: "Take,
for instance, the seven holy Rishis. The symbol of the Initiation
into the Sun-Mysteries is the picture of the sun in Taurus. When
the Sun stands in the sign of Taurus the spectacle in the firmament
reveals the mystery of the particular Initiation of the Rishis.
This Initiation took effect through the seven personalities who
were the seven holy Rishis. This is also expressed in the fact
that the Pleiades, a cluster of seven stars, shine from the same
region of the heavens. That is, moreover, the region where the
whole solar system entered into the Universe to which we belong.
(Background to the Gospel of St. Mark, 1968,
pp. 206-211)
(...) the region where the whole solar system entered into
the Universe (...)
Bradford comments;
If we talk about a Transparent Child and the
mystery of the 13th century we are looking also at a Reincarnation
fact. Nothing, nothing has so infuriated Ahrimanic forces than
Steiner's ability to name names. Here the Holy Rishis make an
earthly appearance. Not only that but the Pleiades become the
fontanel of the Divine Body. We kid not when we say the skeletal
system is a clear Imagination of the Zodiac. We kid not. That
is certainly by now, new age 101 but it comes as a total surprise
to most people you speak with.
But suppose those Pleiades, if you ever looked
at the early spiral unfolding of the hair growth of some children,
there is a Fontanel and almost a galactic spiral of hair arises
out of that.
When we speak of Stephen Hawkings and theories
in Science, what can we make of such insights where the ancient
mythic Indian Rishis, Seven Atlantean Initiation centers; the
mummification of certain Egyptian Pharaohs and the reincarntion
of certain early founding Roman leaders; all lead us back to
some point in the Stars, that when we look up at the Pleiades
we are looking back into the umbilical cord, navel or skull fontanel
of the forming Living Being of the mighty Logos blueprint of
the micro-being of HUMAN? Things like this should be readily
understood or at least raised as questions. There are no dumb
questions. Steiner never thought there were dumb questions. Cunning
and manipulative questions are something entirely different.
It was an immense effort for Steiner to pull
the clues out of his ass and straigten up the mythic history
of humanity so that we could learn to re-digest Information properly.
Today if we look at the Transparent Star Child of Kubrick we
can see how Stanley was unconsciously unfolding a small portion
of a Rosicrucian mystery. Kubrick has Twelve, count them Twelve
Movies for his little life work on Earth. Big deal, but remember,
only Twelve, count them, Twelve people walked on the Moon.
We can see what people in our culture mean
to say and what they can't yet understand and try to say. This
is clear in the reference to Lucifer, Lucifer, Lucifer. Certain
useage is incorrect. Steiner made great efforts to redraw the
maps of thinking to safeguard us in the Information AGe. He proved
it to objective thinking, not subjectively entangled thinking.
But, turning to the legacy and the Stunning
Insights and themes we can take up, by merely looking at all
that our culture is trying to understand, we are dwarfed by just
exactly what we can see concretely. ONe has to admit that it
was awefully generous of Steiner to allow us in on the Secret
of the forming of the Model of the Human Resurrection Blueprint
that Christian Rosenkreuz became. These facts were shared with
humaity in hopes that they would serve our understanding of cosmic
ethics and the behind the scenes workings of the world. So that
we would not be confounded by surface information or mega movies,
but even see through their inspiration to what is behind these
things. Not always bad either.
Take for instance "What God thinks"
as a tiny fragment of a theme. As Tarjei has brought out with
Dylan, we fail to turn our eyes to interesting themes. Dottie
might say, God must think, oh the humble, the meek and the so
on..but I was fascinated for a time with a certain song and the
lyrics of a certain song that was on the charts for some time.
Alanis Morissette
If God had a name what would
it be?
And would you call it to his face?
If you were faced with him in all his glory
what would you ask if you had just one question?
Yeah, Yeah, God is great
Yeah, Yeah, God is good
Yeah Yeah yeah yeah yeah
What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home
If God had a face
What would it look like?
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that you would have to believe
In things like heaven and Jesus and the saints
and all the Prophets...
Bradford concludes;
In the New Year, lets keep Spiritual Science
in their faces. Let them attempt all they want to force us to
think about a specific favorite Ahrimanic issue. Racism. This
is the subject that Ahriman wants people to be painted with currently
so that they fail to think about all the wonders that Spiritual
Science has to offer.
Let us be clear. What is important is that
it was Wagner and the Time Period in which Nietzsche incubated
the Master SuperMan Race theories that go all the way down to
the most important aspect of the grudge match between Christ
and Ahriman in the desert that really bothers Ahriman. Ahriman
loves the race card, because from the Earth side, not the Sophia
and cosmic side, will come cloning science.
Darwin was the hot ticket coming out of the
19th and into the 20th century and Ahriman.. Read AHRIMAN, knew
what humanity still remains in denial about. Most of humanity
still denies and still denies... that the Gods zeroed in on the
Hebrews and prepared in that incursion to drop right down to
the physical plane and enter matter in order to fight for the
human spirit.
Let us be clear. Zarathustra and for those
in the WC, all they repeat is the Ahrimanic impulse of "Thus
Spake Zarathustra" because Ahriman had once been the Senior
Alchemist in charge of matter and matters integration with spirit.
At one point the TAOTL alter of Ahrimanic forming of Race was
mid-wifed by Ahriman. Over time we can trace the grudge match
coming more and more to a head.
Suddenly The Gods sent in their big guns.
Christ is coming to a Walmart in your neighborhood. The clock
on the Cosmic ticker of Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth and Job/vs/Satan
had reached the lowest point in the vast cosmic curve. Ahriman
and Christ are two definite standpoints. Matter, number, measure
and weight were Ahriman's department. Now thinking over this
grudge match or thinking about current events in solidly researched
and yet vividly described thinking constructs places Spiritual
Science well ahead of the contenders. For they know nothing about
history, cosmology and for millions the Tigris and Euphrates
remain where Adam and Eve had the Garden. I was there, I saw
the Tree where tourists still arrrive to take their pictures...It
is pathetic and it is also true.
The contenders have no historical, factual
or intelligent way to get around certain issues. The contenders
want us to swirl around issues that are favorable to Ahrimanic
thought. Racism. It is agreat theme, but as in all great themes,
it depends on who takes it up. It is time for second or third
string of the Michael School to get off the defensive onto the
offensive. We have nothing, nothing, nothing to be ashamed of
and we certainly have the tools to see every detail of culture
in a new and transformed light.
Joel, Tarjei, Sune, Talbott, Omraam Mickael
Aaisanov, countless fine thinkers, Jan and many others are over
it. Tired of letting little shrunken heads put us on the defensive
with code words that allow them to keep the dialogue and research
stuck in an endless loop.
Ahriman does not like what Steiner has given
because it gives humanity the Freedom to see the Cosmic situation
as It is in in all honesty. This really pisses Ahriman off. Not
Lucifer and in the end, Ahriman would be grateful if we got off
our butts and reclaimed science from Stephen Hawkings and the
cloning crew, and took up the very issues of cosmic ethics that
are constantly avoided in every argument. The Ethics of the Incarnation
of each and every human Being and how to defend the unborn.
"I AM not Yet Born, Preserve Me"
Take the Poem and apply it to our New Years
voices uplifted in turning the tables on thoughts stuck in the
glue of uninspired or silly notions. Stephen Hawkings, landing
on Mars and countless other childs play and paraded ideas are
merely pacifiers supplied by Ahriman because everyone refuses
and fails to see the game here. A turf war between what the Human
Spirit can come up with to meet the legacy of Cosmic Ethics and
what Ahriman still must shoulder because of the laziness of our
own Team.
Happy New Year
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Jan 4, 2004 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: Divine Sophia/Transparent Child
Dear Bradford,
What do you think to be Gods overiding character?
What do you envision God to be like in how God responds to things?
What do you think God is like? Knowing God is like nothing that
can be really spoken of, if we had to divine to the highest of
our ability, what do you think God would be like?
I always find it so human to think of meek
and lowly as a weakness. When Christ says 'turn the other cheek
not seven times seven rather 7 times 70' what do you envision
the reason for this?
I find in my thoughts Gabriel bending down
before Mary and she trying to bend down even further than Gabriel
but not being able to. I find Gabriel to be doing the Fathers
work, would the Father not bend down even further if God is all
knowing more than the rest of us?
Maybe the words meek and lowly have a whole
different spirit understanding than they do in the physical realm.
Maybe there is no words to describe the utmost graciousness that
is Gods to Be. When one is all powerful and all knowing would
that not mean He would indeed wash our feet or we would have
no part of Him.
If Christ is sharing with us the Fathers work
and washes our feet, did Christ not do this in honoring the ways
of his Father? Are we not shown in this simplistic yet powerful
act how our Father is in His true essence and how we should be
with others?
Sincerely,
Dottie
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