The Peaceful Warrior
From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The Peaceful Warrior
Hi Dottie, Kim, et al,
Since I have been participating in a lot of
the dialogue that has been going on this weekend, I'd like to
add to what you have just shared, Dottie. Perhaps you were thinking
about my "warrior" message to Paulina. I was thinking
about it at work today, also and I thought I would like to add
that there are many kinds of warriors and many kinds of peacemakers.
There are those who must remain away from the battlefield, whether
physical or otherwise and be ready to help the fallen and wounded.
Think of M*A*S*H* - were those doctors and nurses any less brave
or heroic than the soldiers with guns? In some ways, they may
have been even braver. Their fight was longer, more drawn out
and in a certain sense, more desperate - trying to rescue life
in the midst of death.
I don't think that there is ever "one
way". I think that ultimately, the final goal of the warrior
must be peace. What is the use of fighting unless there is a
hope of resolution? of the end of the conflict? And what is the
use of the healer if no one ever gets hurt? There is a need on
the stage of this world for the hermit and the revolutionary.
All have their meaning and place and all interrelate with one
another. And all are us! Everyone of us has every potential within
him or herself. If we didn't, we wouldn't be human. Each human
being has the potential to be a Hitler or a Mother Teresa - not
that but one in a few trillion ever swing that far with the pendulum.
But the potential is always there. And it is wise to embrace
all of the potentials which make us human, because it is the
ones that remain unconcious which can trip us up the most. We
don't ever know 100% what we will do in any given situation until
we are confronted with that situation. Nevertheless, the more
conciousness we bring to the potentiality of our lives, the more
the likelihood that we will be able to act out of more moral
and more noble ethics and objectives. Otherwise, what is the
point of stories? of both historical tales and fictional tales?
They allow us to "live through" experiences in our
minds and souls that we might never encounter as physical reality
and they allow us to test our reactions and how we feel and think
about those situations. This is a form of "soul exercise"
- toning the "muscles" of our concious selves.
I would like to add that I really am a lily-livered
coward and wither inside when openly attacked. I am not sure
that I would be very good at defending myself. But whenever I
"envision" being in a situation where someone else
is being attacked, I feel like I would lose all sense of myself
and come out with fang and claw. That would probably be the end
of me, but I think that I am capable of that kind of rage and
fury. Is this good or bad? I don't know. There is both good and
bad in this potential. I wouldn't know unless such a thing were
to happen, and I'd really prefer not to have it put to the test.
Which is all just to say that in my opinion,
we should try to stay flexible in our thinking and try to be
as prepared as possible to fight, run or be around to pick up
the pieces.
You know, I thought I saw an Elf today on
the public transit system!!
Love, Christine
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From: dottie zold
Date: Tue Dec 23, 2003 6:21 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The Peaceful Warrior
Christine wrote:
I don't think that there is ever "one way". I think
that ultimately, the final goal of the warrior must be peace.
What is the use of fighting unless there is a hope of resolution?
of the end of the conflict? And what is the use of the healer
if no one ever gets hurt? There is a need on the stage of this
world for the hermit and the revolutionary.
And
And it is wise to embrace all of the
potentials which make us human, because it is the ones that
remain unconcious which can trip us up the most.
Dear Christine,
Not going into personal biographies and so
forth I have to say I have felt sincerely within me that I have
always fought for the Queen. Always. And, it seems to me that
my last fight was in vain in a way: men would do what they wanted
to do irregardless of what was neccessary. I usually am alone
yet continue to do what is neccessary.
This leads me to who I am today. I have been
taking on the Buddha in a sense in the last year or so. What
I mean is that I work to be calm souled throughout crisis irregardless
who's it is especially mine. To kind of be outside my self. I
am preparing my self in a sense not to be shocked by death because
I want to be awake in the passage. Where I got that idea I have
not a clue but it is what is true for me right now.
So, I read a most beautiful story that allowed
me to have a vision of what that looks like: it was a story of
a buddist monk who knew his attackes were coming. And the attacker
cut off his head thinking he was taking it yet when his spirit
rose he laughed at the attacker knowing that he would indeed
pay for this atrocity as he had pursued it to the end of the
earth.
What I have been contemplating is the idea
that my understanding of 'is there evil is there not' question
has taken a new turn. And I am a bit perplexed by it as so many
other pieces come into play. So, I believe I would make a stand
if I felt it warranted for my own behalf but not in a vengence
kind of way rather 'no you do not get to take this' and I know
I would do that for any other person whom I know or do not. Yet
up until a few months ago this was not even a question for my
person. I would defend another and would do the best I could
for my own person but not kill.
So, the idea that the philospher does not
get to be political seems a bit outdated although I understand
the intent behind such a thought. Yet we all bring unto Karma
its due.
Christine
I would like to add that I really am a lily-livered coward
and wither inside when openly attacked.
Dottie
I would have to say I felt the same way about
my person up until I joined a website discussing Steiner. And
somehow my courage began to build and my thoughts began to jell
and I know how to make a stand and hopefully I am learning when
to stand down as well.
Christine
You know, I thought I saw an Elf today on the public transit
system!!
Dottie
YOU PROBABLY DID:))))) I want to hear about
it!
Love,
Dottie
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