The Contents of the White Rose link
From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:06 am
Subject: The contents of the White Rose link
http://www.lewrockwell.com/hardman/hardman26.html
These are the contents of the above, but I
recommend seeing for yourself.
Our Debt
by Charley Hardman
"They shall continue
what we have begun."
Those were among the last
words of Willi Graf before he was killed on 12 October 1943.
Mr. Graf was the last member of The White Rose to be struck down,
crushed under the accumulated weight of weak men who were not
fit to breathe the air exhaled by those immortal few on their
way to the guillotine. His murder was preceded by those of Sophie
Scholl (22 February 1943), Christoph Probst (22 February 1943),
Hans Scholl (22 February 1943), Kurt Huber (13 July 1943), and
Alexander Schmorell (13 July 1943) – all of them killed,
legally, by government.
If you haven't heard of The
White Rose, you might be thinking that it was a paramilitary
group engaged in sabotage – blowing up bridges, assassinating,
or the like. Nothing quite so physical. The six members of The
White Rose mentioned above were slaughtered by the state for
writing, printing, and distributing leaflets critical of National
Socialism, Hitler, and the cowardly passivity of those who merely
watched the evil unleashed in Germany during patriotic years
of worshiping the state.
What would you have done if
you'd learned of their destruction while attempting to make your
way in German society back in 1943? Many people in America these
days, whose idea of bravery is to steadfastly tout the duty and
right of others to kill strangers, would have done then what
they are doing now: Fall in line.
Excuse my language, but it
takes no balls to fall in line. It takes no heart to imitate
the behavior most likely to bring you comfort given your surroundings.
We at LewRockwell.com, Strike The Root, and many other sites
critical of government are routinely painted as cowardly trash
for saying what we say about war alone. The people doing the
criticizing are oblivious. We are not in the immediate danger
confronted by The White Rose, but it's not easy or comfortable
bucking the current, and it's preposterous to suppose that flowing
with the current requires bravery. Is it conducive to short-term
self-preservation? You bet it is! Beyond that, there's not much
to be said for it when tough questions go unasked and previous
historical mistakes are repeated, leading to the ludicrous end
where our critics are even louder critics of those they now emulate
blindly, furiously.
What bravery is there these
days in running around with an American flag? There are no British
soldiers waiting to kill you. It doesn't quite have the same
risk it used to. Most US flag wavers aren't confronting Israeli
bulldozers about to demolish their homes. It's awfully nice to
be on the proper side of a bully. For a while.
The White Rose was not about
falling in line. It was designed and operated to point the light
of truth at pure, disguised evil. It should be alarming to any
man claiming to be an American patriot that the evil of Hitler's
Germany was not only allowed to proceed, but supported strenuously
in the name of patriotism.
From the sixth leaflet published
by The White Rose:
"Freedom and honor! For
ten long years Hitler and his coadjutor have manhandled, squeezed,
twisted, and debased these two splendid German words to the point
of nausea, as only dilettantes can, casting the highest values
of a nation before swine. They have sufficiently demonstrated
in the ten years of destruction of all material and intellectual
freedom, of all moral substance among the German people, what
they understand by freedom and honor. The frightful bloodbath
has opened the eyes of even the stupidest German – it is
a slaughter which they arranged in the name of 'freedom and honor
of the German nation' throughout Europe, and which they daily
start anew. The name of Germany is dishonored for all time if
German youth does not finally rise, take revenge, and atone,
smash its tormentors, and set up a new Europe of the spirit."
I will let the hate mail flow
based upon a comparison I have not made.
The sixth leaflet of The White
Rose was its last. They are dead, and have been for over 60 years.
Yet they are not entirely dead, because that thing for which
they risked their lives and lost is still alive. It is alive
in the form of a mirror thrown up against the eyes of every one
of us, asking, "Are you worthy to use our words? Are you
so worried about your electronic gadgets, your toys, and your
palette that you will not contest the state to the point where
even those shallow attachments are at risk? Have you allowed
our slaughter to mean nothing in your regard? Have your actions
further debased the meaning of the concepts 'freedom' and 'honor'
we sought to preserve? Did we fight for you?"
A man who witnessed what happened
to them answered those questions in a disturbing way. He was
Hans Leipelt, and he joined the battle, continuing the work of
The White Rose until, on 29 January 1945, he died as they did.
He had offended the state.
How did things get to the
point in Germany where one could be killed by the state for distributing
pamphlets? You tell me.
"You have returned into
the light. May the Lord give you eternal rest, and may the eternal
light shine upon you."
~ Else Gebel,
November 1946
The White Rose
December 20, 2003
Charley Hardman (send him
mail) was born in Washington DC.
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:44 am
Subject: Re: The contents of the White Rose link
Christine:
Our Debt
by Charley Hardman
"They shall continue what we have begun."
Dear Christine,
I found it very interesting in the beginning
of this war in Iraq how Germans equated Bush to Hitler. They
were the first ones to do so. Then one by one certain members
of certain leaders of Europe made very similar comments. And
one by one they were forced to resign or they were fired.
I began to wonder how it could be that they
would say something so outrageous and so astounding. They did
not say these things after Afghanistan they said them on our
way in to Iraq. The world was against this war irregardless of
what their leaders wanted. The uproar against going into war
was absolutely amazing. I felt so ispired to see the people of
the world rise up and say no. Seeing 100,000s of people coming
together in a manner I have personally never seen before. I wish
the same had been done for Yugoslavia when the christian militia
of that country attacked the muslims. I remember the Republicans
holding up the right to get guns into the muslims to help. Well
actually at the time I had no idea that there was still a war
going on between Christians and Muslims. And now, even with Paulinas
words I can sense this is truly what it is all about. We have
a born again Christian in the Whitehouse. But we'd be hardpressed
to find anything Christian about him in his view of the world.
I too have also now come to understand that
just as our current Govenor of California admired Hitlers ways
of getting power and having people nationally proud of themselves
to the detriments of others Mr. Bush has been walking the same
line as have the rest of his administration. They missed nothing
of that book so far other than the gas chambers. But I wonder
what Bush would have done, obviously I do not think he would
have ever done the horrid things Hitler did, but I do think he
would have and still will if given a chance get rid of all the
muslim loving people through taking away their freedoms to live
comfortably in the US. And distgustingly enough he also does
it in his own country with his squeezing of social reforms and
all monetary build up for war. He knew when he cut those taxes
for the rich that one day soon the war would kick in and then
all the war material productions would kick in just like they
usually do. So, the highest production comes from the need to
promote the continuing saga of the war. How easy it is to see
why the friendship of Israel and US has walked side by side for
so many years.
Did you realize we had so much money? I mean
really. And we can not afford health care nor better art in schools,
veterans care to mention a few. Just flabergasting that he has
not been impeached with the lies he told to the nation and the
world. And this is why the Democrats need to get Michael like.
And only Dean has shown any kind of shimmer of this courage.
Even before it was popular to do so.
Love,
Dottie
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 8:03 am
Subject: about Bush and Hitler
At 16:44 21.12.2003, Dottie wrote:
I found it very interesting in the beginning
of this war in Iraq how Germans equated Bush to Hitler. They
were the first ones to do so. Then one by one certain members
of certain leaders of Europe made very similar comments. And
one by one they were forced to resign or they were fired.
The comparison between Hitler and Bush is
unintelligent, thoughtless, and an insult to the Holocaust victims.
The Dalai Llama speaks kindly of Bush; he actually likes the
man. And he has met him face to face.
So although I do stand by everything I've
said about Bush Sr and Bush Jr and the death penalty and their
oil deals and private wars and so on and so on, I would draw
the line at a certain point. Those who compare Bush to Hitler
are way out of line, and as public servants and diplomats they
should be fired for stupidity.
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 9:59 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
Tarjei wrote:
The comparison between Hitler and Bush is unintelligent, thoughtless,
and an insult to the Holocaust victims. The Dalai Llama speaks
kindly of Bush; he actually likes the man. And he has met him
face to face.
Hi Tarjei,
In one sense you are correct if we are thinking
that Bush has the capacity or the want to anhilate a group of
people in the manner that Hitler did. Obviously I do not sense
this about him. And its not even realy one person rather an administration
of like minded people we are speaking of. I think we would have
to look to Mr. Rove to really pinpoint why this comparison even
comes up.
In regards to Hitler we are not referring
to the killings rather his manner of taking hold of his countries
political power. There is a similar strategy that all message
goes through him and his same minded administration to such an
extent that the rest of us are considered traitors to the country
we live in. Our freedoms have been taken away to be looked upon
by the crazy minded officials who believe anyone with sympathy
for Iraq or Muslims is a possible danger to our society. I am
stopped every time I fly because I wear a bandanna. Who told
me this? A security agent asked if I knew why when I had mentioned
this is the third time I had been stopped on the way to the luggage
area. He told me 'nobody else will tell you but I will, it's
your bandanna'. They had me in tears at one point as I was saying
bye to my father and they were questioning me a little rudely.
I was tryiing to wave to him as if all was well. Had he gotten
any inkling what was going on he would have been over there in
a second. So, I had to act like all was okay. Now when I go the
airports I expect it and it does contiue to happen. And I just
laugh although it does hurt my feelings a bit. I think actually
I have something marked on my liscense possibly. I would hate
to be in the room alone with those people who can change ones
life in an instant.
Today on page 22 in between a Santa and piano
add we find that once again they were forced to drop espionage
charges against another syrian born soldier serving Guatanamo.
He is the second AMerican soldier to have these devestating charges
dropped against him. I have watched the people who served as
interpreters for the inmates be charged as they left duty. I
first thought oh jeez I can't believe we have spying going on.
And then I started to notice a pattern; all muslim speaking interpretors
were watched and accused upon leaving the base. And I thought
'Damn you Rumsfield', better be safe than sorry mentality no
matter who it harms. And what has become of these espionage charges?
Well, we have an adultry charge against Mr. Yee, and a false
credit report charge among other more lame charges. All serious
charges dropped without explanation. Thank god the world is watching.
I am sure I too would like Mr. Bush when sitting
in front of him as a person. I just can't stand where he has
taken us and the manner in which he has. We are called to find
the god in others and that is what I do. However it does not
mean the other things are not true about him. And it does not
mean that I am not aware of what he is capable of in all ways.
Have you ever heard the Dali Lama speak ill of anyone? I can't
even imagine that happening. He is much more seeing and trusting
than the rest of us. And we aspire to be so.
Tarjei
So although I do stand by everything I've said about Bush
Sr and Bush Jr and the death penalty and their oil deals and
private wars and so on and so on, I would draw the line at a
certain point. Those who compare Bush to Hitler are way out of
line, and as public servants and diplomats they should be fired
for stupidity.
Dottie
Well, I for one am glad they so spoke. It
gave me a chance to put a grounding to what I was feeling within.
And I sure they did not speak of this lightly either. Why would
one dare to think of such a connection? How did that come about?
We would have to look to Mr. Rove to really find this answer.
It is unbearable for Christ like minded people
who work to bring peace to see the setback that has ocurred with
this administration. Just devestating to live in this country
for me and watch the cover up that is going on. We couldn't get
an honest word in the LA Times until one day something happened.
And I can not remember exactly what it was but it was the first
time that began a somewhat more balanced view of the Bush Administration.
And I do see a driving link for other like minded people across
the world who sympathize with each other and their desire for
a peaceful world. And that is a force that will have to be reckoned
with in the future. I just do not know what I will do if this
man is reelected. I truly don't. I remember watching the debates
thinking 'oh no he has the bubbba mentality that wishy washy
people are going to fall right in line with. But I also thought
'no way, they must be able to see past this man'. I was wrong
and I still cannot believe he won. Well, actually he did not.
I remember when Clinton won by a slim margin and the Republicans
held he could not make so many changes because he had not won
by a majority. Funny how times change and every stupid thing
they have ever said and ruled has come back to haunt them from
ruling as if a major majority to challenging judgeships. I just
hope I can hold a Michaelic courage to not want to just run and
hide from what I do not want to see in my fellow man. How my
elders fought the battles they did with the losses they incurred
without losing faith of ones people seems to be outside my grasp
at the moment.
Sincerely,
Dottie
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
At 18:59 21.12.2003, Dottie wrote:
In regards to Hitler we are not referring
to the killings rather his manner of taking hold of his countries
political power.
In that case, comparing Bush to Napoleon would
have been more acceptable. There is absolutely no excuse for
comparing him to Hitler.
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: Daniel Hindes
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:19 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
In regards to Hitler we are not referring
to the killings rather his manner of taking hold of his countries
political power.
In this case, it is mistaken to refer to Hitler.
A careful study of the period would show that Hitler had much
help in getting to power. Thus it is far better to say: "...the
Nazi's manner of taking hold of [a] countries political power."
Hitler was just one of a number of people working in that manner.
Goebbles, for example, was arguably better at touching those
nerves. I maintain that separating Hitler the person from "Nazism"
the movement is important.
Daniel
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
Daniel
Thus it is far better to say: "...the Nazi's manner of
taking hold of [a] countries political power." Hitler was
just one of a number of people working in that manner. Goebbles,
for example, was arguably better at touching those nerves. I
maintain that separating Hitler the person from "Nazism"
the movement is important.
Hi Daniel,
I can agree with you one hundred percent.
It is much clearer in the manner you have just mentioned. When
one compares the Bush regime to the Hitler regime people tend
to think we are talking about the murdering of the Jews and so
forth. We are not. I think what you have said is how I will talk
about the situation from now on. It just makes more sense.
Thank you,
Dottie
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:43 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
George W. Bush's grandfather is called "Hitler's
Angel". He was Hitlers financier in New York. - Christine
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Prescott Bush and the
Nazis
by MICHAEL KRANISH
(Excerpt from PRESCOTT BUSH
& NAZIS, BOSTON GLOBE 4/23/2001, TRIUMPHS,
TROUBLES SHAPE GENERATIONS
PRESCOTT BUSH PAVED MODERATE
PATH FOR SON AND GRANDSON;
WOUNDED BY FRIEND'S BETRAYAL, HE PUT HIGH PRICE ON LOYALTY)
Author: By Michael Kranish,
Globe Staff Date: 04/23/2001 Page: A1 Section:
National/Foreign
AN AMERICAN DYNASTY
Last of two parts
"Prescott Bush was surely
aghast at a sensational article the New York
Herald Tribune splashed on its front page in July 1942.
'Hitler's Angel Has 3 Million
in US Bank,' read the headline above a story
reporting that Adolf Hitler's financier had stowed the fortune
in Union Banking
Corp., possibly to be held for "Nazi bigwigs."
Bush knew all about the New
York bank: He was one of its seven directors. If
the Nazi tie became known, it would be a potential embarrassment,
Bush and his
partners at Brown Brothers Harriman worried, explaining to government
regulators that their position was merely an unpaid courtesy
for a client.
The situation grew more serious
when the government seized Union's assets
under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the sort of action that
could have ruined
Bush's political dreams.
As it turned out, his involvement
wasn't pursued by the press or political
opponents during his Senate campaigns a decade later. But the
episode may well
have been one of the catalysts for a dramatic change in his life.
Just as the Union Banking
story broke, Bush volunteered to be chairman of
United Service Organizations, putting himself on the national
stage for the
first
time.
He traveled the country raising
millions of dollars to help boost the morale
of US troops during World War II, enhancing his stature in a
way that helped
him get elected US senator.
A son and grandson would become
presidents."
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http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html
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http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm
Intro to full article:
The Nazis extracted the fillings
of its victims after being informed by
Degussa that the company could refine it into marketable gold
bullion. Degussa
was
awarded an exclusive contract with the Nazis to refine all gold.
The company
was also joint owners with I.G. Farben of Degesch, a firm that
produced
Zyklon-B cyanide tablets used in the gas chambers. Due to the
hoard of gold
fillings
stacking up at Auschweitz, Degussa built a smelter there. The
bullion was then
shipped back to Berlin and commingled with the Nazis gold stash.
Undoubtedly
some of it made its way back to the banker in charge of United
Steel Works,
Prescott Bush.
Gold Fillings, Auschwitz
& George Bush
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http://www.clamormagazine.org/features/issue14.3_feature.html
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http://www.bushbodycount.com/voices/thelist.php
A Roster of the Dead
This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have
been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely ends. Some
of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor.
Some you may find incredible, and some frightening. Do your own
research. You will draw your own conclusions. We make no assertion
but this:
There is not enough time to compile a list of the thousands who
have died and who will die under CIA-backed government actions,
or in wars started by a lust for oil or power, and fed by the
bodies of young men who believe the media propaganda.
George W. Bush is the face of the ruling elite who couldn't care
less about the masses, especially if the masses get in the way
of their greed. The evil that was present in Nazi Germany is
present in his heritage, and now present in America. God help
us all.
Go to the list
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/012303A.ma.dead.htm
"What luck for the rulers that men do
not think."
--Adolf Hitler
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http://www.lpdallas.org/features/draheim/dr991216.htm
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George W. Bush was part of the team that masterminded the demolition
of the two towers of the World Trade Center, slaughtering over
3,000 of his own citizens on his own soil. More will follow.
- Christine
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/inside.html
9/11 - An Inside Job?
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An Inside Job?
US officials are compiling what one called
"growing" evidence that other hijackings may have been
planned for September 11. Officials from both the government
and the airline industry tell TIME Magazine that a knife-like
weapon was found on each of two separate Delta Airlines aircraft
later that day, although neither plane took off due to the nationwide
grounding after the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks on
hijacked United and American airlines planes.
Investigators are not yet certain how these
weapons came to be on board the aircraft. But they increasingly
believe that the weapons may have been prepositioned by accomplices
for use by others. As one US official told TIME, "These
look like inside jobs."
Numbers suggest terrorists targeted flights
The numbers appear out-of-whack, thankfully.
And so, a lingering question is why the passenger loads on the
four planes hijacked in U.S. skies are being described by industry
officials as "very, very low."
"You have to think it was by design,
that they didn't want to go on a flight with the chance of the
passengers working against them,'' said Dave Esser, head of the
aeronautical science department at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical
University. "If you've got the threat of a bomb or a gun
you can hold people at bay. These guys were strong-arming people
with box cutters and knives.
"They wanted the numbers to be on their
side.''
And they were, staggeringly so.
Three of the transcontinental flights departed
for the West Coast with at least two-thirds of the seats empty.
Only 37 of the 182 seats were occupied -- including four by hijackers,
at least two in first class -- as United Airlines' Flight 93
left Newark for San Francisco.
The only flight that was even half full proved
to be American Airlines' Flight 11, a wide-body Boeing 767 that
left Boston bound for Los Angeles with 81 passengers.
Bush-Linked Company Handled Security for the
WTC, Dulles and United
George W. Bush's brother was on the board
of directors of a company providing electronic security for the
World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines,
according to public records.
All 9/11 airports serviced by one Israeli
company
ICTS is [...] an Israeli owned company, and
[...] it sells services to every airport from which the hijacked
planes operated, including security, sometimes through wholly
owned subsidiaries like Huntleigh USA Corporation.
It has been suggested that the incredible
feat of hijacking four aircraft without a single arrest at the
gate would require the resources of a nation-state. This is even
more true with the revelation that at least one gun had managed
to be aboard a hijacked plane. One company had automatic inside
access to all of the airports from which hijacked planes departed
on 9-11, and to the airports used by Richard Reid, the shoe bomber.
An Israeli company. One that Mossad agents could easily find
employment with without the management knowing who they were
or what their purpose really was.
But one thing is clear. By virtue of the Odigo
warning, someone knew enough about the planned attacks to warn
Odigo before the planes had even departed the airport gates,
yet they did not call the Israeli security company at the airports
which could have stopped the flights from leaving.
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See also:
9/11 - Pure Coincidences?
The 9/11 USAF Stand Down
9/11 Inside Trades Lead to CIA
FEMA in New York the Night Before 9/11?
The World Trade Center Demolition - An Analysis
The Pre-9/11 Shut Down of Arab Muslim Web Sites
9/11 - What did the government know, and when did it know it?
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What Really Happened
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http://www.viewfromthewall.com/
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http://www.babelmagazine.com/NWO%20EXPOSED.html
THE NEW WORLD ORDER EXPOSED
by Victor Thorn
Some of the explosive material contained within
this book:
Who commanded our Air Force to ‘stand
down’ for nearly two hours on the morning of 9-11?
The Federal Reserve is a privately-owned,
for-profit corporation with seven of the top ten shareholders
being foreign banks
The Bush family was the Nazi party’s
primary money launderer during World War II
The CIA is one of the largest drug traffickers
in the world
Undeniable proof that AIDS is a man-made disease
The Bush and bin-Laden families have been
in business together for over 30 years and, until recently, both
belonged to the Carlyle investment group
The Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City
was actually brought down by explosive charges inside the building
The primary financiers for both the Bolshevik
Revolution and Hitler’s rise to power were American bankers
Learn how ‘Votescam’ is being used
to steal your vote
Franklin Roosevelt had full knowledge of the
Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor nearly two weeks before it actually
took place
The OSS and CIA have been working hand-in-hand
with organized crime since the 1930’s/li>
90% of the people at Jonestown were either
killed by gunshot, strangulation, or lethal injection –
not suicide
Franklin Roosevelt had given all of our nuclear
secrets to Russia by 1943 – nearly two years before we dropped
the Bomb in Hiroshima
The U.S. Government smuggled scores of Nazi
scientists into this country after WWII under ‘Project Paperclip’
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http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/
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FEMA has the power and the concentration camps at the ready to
put a tremendous percentage of United States citizens into a
limbo situation or worse, and by Executive Order, Congress will
not be allowed to even investigate such an action for 6 months.
- Christine
http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon6.html
FEMA - The Secret Government
By Harry V. Martin with research
assistance from David Caul
Copyright FreeAmerica and
Harry V. Martin, 1995
Some people have referred
to it as the "secret government" of the United States.
It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public
disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the billions
of dollars. This government organization has more power than
the President of the United States or the Congress, it has the
power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain
citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can
seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can
suspend the Constitution.
Not only is it the most powerful
entity in the United States, but it was not even created under
Constitutional law by the Congress. It was a product of a Presidential
Executive Order. No, it is not the U.S. military nor the Central
Intelligence Agency, they are subject to Congress. The organization
is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management
Agency. Originally conceived in the Richard Nixon Administration,
it was refined by President Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the
Ronald Reagan and George Bush Administrations.
FEMA had one original concept
when it was created, to assure the survivability of the United
States government in the event of a nuclear attack on this nation.
It was also provided with the task of being a federal coordinating
body during times of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes,
floods and hurricanes. Its awesome powers grow under the tutelage
of people like Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord,
the architects on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of
America's savings and loan institutions. FEMA has even been given
control of the State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered
neo-Nazi, civilian army that will substitute for the National
Guard, if the Guard is called to duty overseas.
THE MOST POWERFUL ORGANIZATION
IN THE UNITED STATES
Though it may be the most
powerful organization in the United States, few people know it
even exists. But it has crept into our private lives. Even mortgage
papers contain FEMA's name in small print if the property in
question is near a flood plain. FEMA was deeply involved in the
Los Angeles riots and the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the
San Francisco Bay Area. Some of the black helicopter traffic
reported throughout the United States, but mainly in the West,
California, Washington, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Colorado,
are flown by FEMA personnel. FEMA has been given responsibility
for many new disasters including urban forest fires, home heating
emergencies, refugee situations, urban riots, and emergency planning
for nuclear and toxic incidents. In the West, it works in conjunction
with the Sixth Army.
FEMA was created in a series
of Executive Orders. A Presidential Executive Order, whether
Constitutional or not, becomes law simply by its publication
in the Federal Registry. Congress is by-passed. Executive Order
Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency
that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil
defense planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was
appointed. FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget
on national emergencies, the bulk of their funding has been used
for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure
continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign
or domestic. Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the
National Security Council
as the principal body that should consider emergency powers.
This allows the government to increase domestic intelligence
and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict the freedom
of movement within the United States and grant the government
the right to isolate large groups of civilians. The National
Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control
of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.
Here are just a few Executive
Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution
and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record
for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential
pen:
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows
the government to take over all modes of transportation and control
of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows
the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows
the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum,
fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows
the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows
the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under
government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows
the government to take over all health, education and welfare
functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates
the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of
all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows
the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including
commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows
the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build
new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned,
and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows
the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public
storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies
the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives
authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times
of increased international tensions and economic or financial
crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants
authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set
out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to
establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens,
to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise
and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns
emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies,
consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen
year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows
the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to
establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution,
of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money
in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency.
It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by
the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
The Federal Emergency Management
Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General
Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated
in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier
in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from
assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage
and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from
gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times
of crisis."
FEMA's powers were consolidated
by President Carter to incorporate:
the National Security Act
of 1947, which allows for the strategic relocation of industries,
services, government and other essential economic activities,
and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and
production facilities;
the 1950 Defense Production
Act, which gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects
of the economy;
the Act of August 29, 1916,
which authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to
take possession of any transportation system for transporting
troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency;
and
the International Emergency
Economic Powers Act, which enables the President to seize the
property of a foreign country or national.
. . more
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http://www.guerrillanews.com/war_on_terrorism/doc1611.html
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http://www.survivalistskills.com/fema.htm
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html
U.S. CONCENTRATION CAMPS
FEMA AND THE REX 84 PROGRAM
There over 600 prison camps in the United
States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners.
They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards,
but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA
(Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need
to be implemented in the United States.
The Rex 84 Program was established on the
reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the
Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained
in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases
to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.
(More)
When first coming across this information
I was in a state of total denial. How could this be? I believed
our country was free, and always felt a sense of comfort in knowing
that as long as we didn’t hurt others in observing our freedom
we were left to ourselves. Ideally we treated everyone with respect
and honored their uniqueness and hoped that others did likewise.
It took an intensive year of searching into
the hidden politics to discover that we are as free as we believe
we are. If we are in denial, we don’t see the signs that
are staring at us, but keep our minds turned off and busy with
all the mundane affairs of daily life.
We just don’t care enough to find out
the real truth, and settle for the hand-fed stories that come
our way over the major media sources television, radio, newspaper,
and magazines. But it’s too late to turn back to the days
of blindfolds and hiding our heads in the sand because the reality
is becoming very clear. The time is fast approaching when we
will be the ones asking "What happened to our freedom? To
our free speech? To our right to protect ourselves and our family?
To think as an individual? To express ourselves in whatever way
we wish?"
Once we challenge that freedom we find out
how free we really are. How many are willing to take up that
challenge? Very few indeed, otherwise we wouldn’t find ourselves
in the situation that we are in at the present time. We wouldn’t
have let things progress and get out of the hands of the public
and into the hands of those that seek to keep us under their
control no matter what it takes, and that includes the use of
force and detainment for those that ask the wrong questions.
Will asking questions be outlawed next? Several
instances have recently been reported where those that were asking
questions that came too near the untold truth (the cover up)
were removed from the press conferences and from the public’s
ear. Also, those that wanted to speak to the press were detained
and either imprisoned, locked in a psychiatric hospital, slaughtered
(through make-believe suicides) or discredited.
Why are we all in denial over these possibilities?
Didn’t we hear about prison camps in Germany, and even in
the United States during World War II? Japanese individuals were
rounded up and placed in determent camps during the duration
of the War. Where was their freedom?
You don’t think it could happen to you?
Obviously those rounded up and killed didn’t think it could
happen to them either. How could decent people have witnessed
such atrocities and still said nothing? Are we going to do the
same here as they cart off one by one those individuals who are
taking a stand for the rights of the citizens as they expose
the truth happening behind the scenes? Are we all going to sit
there and wonder what happened to this country of ours? Where
did we go wrong? How could we let it happen?
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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html
FEMA IN NEW YORK THE NIGHT
BEFORE 9/11?
Click HERE for a RealAudio recording of a statement
made by FEMA spokesman Tom Kenney to Dan Rather on Wednesday,
September 12th. In this interview, Tom states that Fema was deployed
to New York on Monday night, September 10th, to be ready to go
into action on Tuesday morning, September 11th.
Needless to say, this recording
has caused quite a stir. The official reaction is that Kenney
was simply confused about the dates. However, Kenney is complaining
on the recording about not gettng full access to the site until
"today". Kenney talks about a Monday, a Tuesday, and
"today". That's three days. If indeed the above recording
was made on Wednesday, September 12th as claimed, then the explanation
that Kenney was simply confused about the days doesn't work,
because there is one more day than can be accounted for.
Mr. Kenney has since been
ordered not to discuss this incident
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The Dali Lama has his own economic/ political
agenda and he "likes" a lot of people if it is to the
benefit of his cause of Tibetan liberation. - Christine
Le Dalai-Lama soutient G.W. Bush
Apres son entretien avec le president Bush junior, lors d`une
tournee de 20 jours aux Etats-Unis, le pape du Bouddhisme tibetain,
presume non-violent, declare : `Iraq war may be justified`. http://www.india.indymedia/org/front.php3article_id=78338group=webcast.
Le Dalai-Lama, representant de la communaute tibetaine en exil,
que d`aucuns pensent etre un agent d`influence `spirituel` a
cause de son Prix Nobel, considere l`expedition coloniale americaine
en Irak comme une necessite historique au meme titre que la Seconde
guerre mondiale et la Guerre de Coree... Cette prise de position
donne raison aux journalistes tel l`americain Michael Parenti
(lire son article sur www.swans.com intitule `Amical Feodalism
: The myth of Tibet) qui denonce les feodaux en exil tibetain
comme des agents payes de l`imperialisme americain.
ThecLama supports G.W. Bush
After its discussion with the president Bush junior, at the time
d`une tournee 20 days in the United States, the pope of Buddhism
tibetain, presume non-violent, declares : ` Iraq war may Be justified`.
http://www.india.indymedia/org/front.php3article_id=78338group=webcast.
ThecLama, representant of the community tibetaine in exile, that
d`aucuns thinks of being an agent d`influence ` spirituel` because
of its Nobel Prize, considere colonial l`expedition americaine
in Iraq like a historical necessite on the same basis that the
Second world war and the War of Coree... This standpoint gives
reason to the journalists such l`americain Michael Parenti (to
read its article on www.swans.com entitles ` Amical Feodalism
: The myth of Tibet) which denonce the feodaux ones in exile
tibetain like agents pays of l`imperialism americain.
Dali Lama says Iraq War May
Be Justified
by Scott Lindlaw • Wednesday September 10, 2003 at 05:11
PM
The exiled Tibetan leader
and Nobel Peace Prize winner said some wars, including the Korean
War and World War II, helped "protect the rest of civilization,
democracy."
dalailama.jpg, JPG image,
195x256
Dali Lama: Iraq War May Be
Justified
Scott Lindlaw, AP, September 10, 2003 11:09 PM
The Dalai Lama said Wednesday
that the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan may have been justified
to win a larger peace, but that is it too soon to judge whether
the Iraq war was warranted. "I think history will tell,"
he said in an interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday,
just after he met with President Bush.
"In principle, I always
believe nonviolence is the right thing, and nonviolent method
is in the long run more effective," said the Dalai Lama,
who after the Sept. 11 attacks had implored Bush to avoid a violent
response by the United States.
The exile Tibetan leader,
awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1989, said the Vietnam War increased
suffering and was a "failure." But, he said, some wars,
including the Korean War and World War II, helped "protect
the rest of civilization, democracy." He said he saw a similar
result in Afghanistan - "perhaps some kind of liberation."
"The people themselves,
I think, suffer a lot under their previous regimes," he
said. But he was adamant that the United States not lose sight
of rebuilding Afghanistan.
The Dalai Lama urged Bush,
in a letter on Sept. 12, 2001, to "think seriously whether
a violent action is the right thing to do and in the greater
interest of the nation and people in the long run." Asked
whether the Iraq war was just, the Dalai Lama said the situation
there is "more complicated" and will take more time
before he can judge.
The Dalai Lama said he had
briefly raised these concerns to Bush during their meeting in
the White House residence. He declined to say what Bush's response
was.
The Tibetan Buddhist leader,
who is a five-city, 20-day tour of the United States that is
timed to coincide with the Sept. 11 anniversary, called on Americans
to channel their lingering grief "into a source of inner
strength."
"Big, unthinkable tragedies
happen," he said. "Now, instead of keeping that and
developing hatred or sense of revenge, instead of that, think
long-term. The negative event, try to transform into a source
of inner strength."
He likened the terrorist attacks
to Tibetans' struggle to reclaim their country from Chinese rule.
Communist troops took over Tibet in 1951, and the Dalai Lama
fled in 1959 during a failed uprising. He now lives in India.
"In my own case, many
experiences of unthinkable situations have happened, but we never
lose our hope. We never let negative emotions (rule), so that's
immense benefit - including my own health," said the Dalai
Lama, who was hospitalized last year with stomach ailments. "More
peace (of) mind, more calm mind, more compassionate mind - very
good for my health!" he said with a hearty laugh.
The White House meeting irritated
Chinese authorities, who said in the official China Daily newspaper
that the visit to the United States "constitutes a serious
intervention into China's internal affairs." Nevertheless,
the Dalai Lama got an audience with Bush; Secretary of State
Colin Powell and his top aide on
Tibet, Paula Dobriansky; Laura Bush; White House chief of staff
Andy Card; and a deputy to Vice President Dick Cheney, Scooter
Libby.
The Washington-based International
Campaign for Tibet, however, said it was high time Bush received
the Dalai Lama in the Oval Office, not in the White House residence
- a symbolic step that would signal a stronger commitment to
the Dalai Lama's teachings,
said John Ackerly, ICT's president.
"Our war on terrorism
should include embracing nonviolent leaders, and not ushering
them in through the back door of the White House," Ackerly
said.
The Dalai Lama, regarded by
Tibetan Buddhists as the 14th incarnation of the Buddha of compassion,
broke into laughter often during the interview, even when the
conversation turned to serious topics.
He laughed when he described
his political role as one of "semi-retirement," when
he stumbled on a word, and again when he characterized Beijing's
occasional "bullying" of Tibet.
He gestured continuously,
the beads on his bracelet rattling at the end of his bare arms.
The 68-year-old Dalai Lama had flecks of gray in his close-cropped
hair, but looked decades younger than his age.
The Dalai Lama and his followers
seek greater autonomy for Tibetans while keeping the region part
of China. Beijing demands that the Dalai Lama publicly renounce
any claim to Tibet's independence, and says he is welcome back
as a religious leader, but may have no political role.
The Dalai Lama said he saw
hopeful signs of an agreement. Direct contact between his envoys
and Chinese officials resumed last year after an impasse of nearly
a decade.
He called China's new president,
Hu Jintao - a former top Chinese official in Tibet - "cautious,"
but said he hoped Hu will continue a process of liberalization.
But he also said he was concerned about frustration among Tibetans
after decades of Chinese rule, and amid an "overwhelming"
influx of Chinese into Tibet.
"Not necessarily intentionally, but unintentionally, the
cultural genocide is taking place," he said.
Asked whether decades of frustration
could lead to violence or even terrorism, he paused. "Oh,
possible," the Dalai Lama said. "But up to now, Tibetans,
in spite individual views or feelings, I think generally they
listen to my approach. Strictly nonviolent."
www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3132067,00.html
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The Dali Lama On War
The Dali Lama spoke in Central Park this weekend. He said, "The
very concept of war is out of date," he said to applause.
"Destruction of your neighbor as an enemy is essentially
a destruction of yourself."
I agree with that. I wish our leaders did
too.
See the whole article at
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/22/nyregion/22DALA.html
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Anyone else see a split in thinking here?
- Christine
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From: Gisele
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] about Bush and Hitler
~~~~Good job Christine.Thank you!
Gisele
golden3000997 wrote:
George W. Bush's grandfather is called
"Hitler's Angel". He was Hitlers financier in New York.
- Christine
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From: holderlin66
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:54 am
Subject: Re: The White Rose link
--- In anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
golden3000997@c... wrote:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/hardman/hardman26.html
Christine has indicated with passion;
The White Rose..hmm, where would people dig
up such a strange name. Last evening we were discussing at our
table, that the Yellow Rose of Texas was the name of concubine
from Santa Anna who took out the Alamo of Texas. Rosebud arises
from the famous film, "Citizen Kane" I wake up with
the White Rose and a highly heroic insight into the connections
between Weimar and today. I have always understand Rosicrucianism
and indeed the purified Rose, the white rose and the Burning
Bush of Moses gives rise to a Lazarus event. In order to pass
the thought police here, I will mention the fine film, "Casablanca"
perhaps this is another word for White House now that I think
of it.
In "Casablanca" there is not only
a good story of those who took up the White Rose during the time
of crisis that we can hardly understand from today's mall life
but a snapshot of the type courage others were facing. There
is Rick and Victor Lazlo, a true emblem of the White Rose. For
a damn good instance and case in point listen up.
I had the 23, copy of a book by Arnold Wadler.
"One Language Source of all Tongues" Wadler had to
smuggle the book out, Nazi's trailing anthros and good ole Wadler
found himself in a hospital and unable to claim his precious
life's work. Boats were loading and confusion was everywhere.
The hard, hard written and type written sheaths amounted to only
one precious copy. And here we are today with the power of the
written word at our fingertips..humbug!
Wadler was a pupil of Steiner's. He was on
the Nazi list, the excuse my thought police, reference, a kind
of reverse sorathian "Schindler's List" only these
people, like the White Rose people were to be caught, executed
or sent to cyanide chamber number 666.
Wadler's book tracing the Mother Tongue through
hieroglyphics back to Atlantis and the roots of Language ranks
as some of the finest research ever done. Who has read the book?
Show of hands. I thought so. Great, great stuff out of work of
our elders in the Michael School. My copy was a translation of
a limited printing. If you have read it, you are stunned at what
the pupils of Spiritual Science could do and the crisis in which
they did it in. While as eyecue has stated, I sit back in my
easy chair never having worked a day in my life.
Well a nurse in a hospital recovered out of
the thousands of potential patients and meetings, the lost briefcase
and work of Wadler and returned it to him just as with a heavy
heart he was on the gangplank of the only boat that would get
his body free of the deadly Pincers of the gestapo.
The nurse didn't turn Wadler into the thought
police and Wadler never saw the person again as she disappeared
into the crowds caught in the croosfire of fascism. She had recovered
a portion of his soul and helped pass down through the generations,
to me, a stunned glimpse into what language and the Word really
means as it traveled through time from Atlantis to the current
suffix and prefix of language roots.
Note 1936 and somewhere in some unrecognized
corner of the world, as the world was turned upside down, Someone
named WAdler in 1933 was piecing together the puzzle of Races,
Languages and the source of the Mother tongue that goes back
to Atlantis and comes out of hiding in the Logos of the Christ
Event. Believe me, we're not worthy, we're not worthy we're not
worthy. Bock, Poppelbaum, Konig, Morganstern, Wachsmuth, Eyecue's
Walter Johannes Stein, who I love as well and have copies of
some of his rare works, who could forget Edward Schure, thousands
and thousands of mighty contributors to the Michael impulse and
we get the pathetic Waldorf Critics.
4) Arnold Wadler: "the tower of Babel,
Urgemeinschaft of the languages", 2. Edition Wiesbaden 1988;
ders.: "Germanic primeval times", Basel 1936, reproduction
Wiesbaden o.J. (1980)
Emotional education is hardly good enough.
Our current divisions of opinion, left wing and right wing, were
wet nursed in thought and language under the banners of Nominalism
and Realism in previous incarnations. There is no doubt that
self examination as to why our Michael Friends would choose a
stand point of current events that is unpenetrated and unresearched
or Intellectually sliced and diced, like the WC and the Critics..and
fails them in their internal self observation to see and discern
the events and the time we are living in, is a complex riddle.
It is just another Shallow unexplored layer
of soul that no one can force another person to look at. The
White Rose resonates in my understanding of heroic actions. The
idea that today we are watching the unraveling of America before
our eyes, probably and does have a resonation with the events
of Weimar and 1933. We are very close to this and all it takes
is a small financial, world market catastrophe to get the Patriot
Act, the McArthy traitor syndrome up and running under the banner
of Fundamentalism and "The Handmaid's Tale". We are
very close to a return of Mcarthyism.
We naturally must be slightly stunned when
our fellow Anthros have wrapped themselves in delusion and the
American flag. Okay, so they aren't Platonic enough to get the
wide window view of the situation, but rather as hard nosed,
nose to the grindstone Aristotleites, they place on their priority,
not giving a hoot about the ethical clarity of events, everywhere
else, but rather focus on their own ten mile radius of life activity
and give it their all. This is fine for me, I call you friend,
but you are required to have self knowledge period. Just the
slightest real time self knowledge is required.
But naturally and the point is that Germany
was full of hard working individuals and many with good german
ethics. Today in America we have the same looming situation.
It is a call for those even faintly resembling Michael Thinkers,
Moore, Franken, Vidal, Talbott, Chomsky, writers and blogs everywhere,
to call in, if they so desire, their awakened observations of
our Michael Time Period. Joel does this all the time, and so
do many others in our world.
With the word at our fingertips, we have every
ability to deep see into the world and into human destiny and
hold it as our elders held us in their future eye. For what did
they see but us coming into incarnation and Theirs and Our futures
and they held a place open for us heroically. Thinking People
know the current White House is the SPin Zone and we can put
O'Reilly and his worm tongue in that along with Fox News. If
you haven't understood this yet, you lack self knowledge and
you need to get you some.
There are plenty of us who see the tone and
tenor of the Michael Age and can put our finger on the pulse
and tell you what it is and if it is failing it. Thoughts are
spiritual signatures to the soul and vision of tenor of thought,
tone of the I AM can be grasped in communication but is holier
and brighter when eye meets eyecue.
[link]
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.runenhort.de/runenwis/ursprach.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DArnold
%2BWadler%26start%3D20%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN
White Rose notes;
"What bravery is there
these days in running around with an American flag? There are
no British soldiers waiting to kill you. It doesn't quite have
the same risk it used to. Most US flag wavers aren't confronting
Israeli bulldozers about to demolish their homes. It's awfully
nice to be on the proper side of a bully. For a while.
The White Rose was not
about falling in line. It was designed and operated to point
the light of truth at pure, disguised evil. It should be alarming
to any man claiming to be an American patriot that the evil of
Hitler's Germany was not only allowed to proceed, but supported
strenuously in the name of patriotism.
From the sixth leaflet
published by The White Rose:
"Freedom and honor!
For ten long years Hitler and his coadjutor have manhandled,
squeezed, twisted, and debased these two splendid German words
to the point of nausea, as only dilettantes can, casting the
highest values of a nation before swine. They have sufficiently
demonstrated in the ten years of destruction of all material
and intellectual freedom, of all moral substance among the German
people, what they understand by freedom and honor. The frightful
bloodbath has opened the eyes of even the stupidest German –
it is a slaughter which they arranged in the name of 'freedom
and honor of the German nation' throughout Europe, and which
they daily start anew. The name of Germany is dishonored for
all time if German youth does not finally rise, take revenge,
and atone, smash its tormentors, and set up a new Europe of the
spirit."
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
At 16:54 21.12.2003, Bradford wrote:
who could forget Edward Schure,
and:
We naturally must be slightly stunned when
our fellow Anthros have wrapped themselves in delusion and the
American flag.
That's something that happens to the very
best among us. According to what I've heard or read somewhere,
the warm and excellent friendship between Rudolf Steiner and
Eduard Schure cooled off considerably after the Great War because
of the positions they had held and the sympathies they had during
that war. The war between France and Germany seems to have ruined
the relationship between Steiner and Schure! Can anybody corroborate
this with a reference, or is it just a rumor?
Regardless of the truth or lack of such behind
this story, it proves the importance for anthroposophists to
be "homeless souls" in the real sense of the word,
i.e. liberated from sentiments associated with nationality, especially
in times of strife.
Cheers,
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:07 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
Does being "liberated from sentiments
associated with nationality" (Tarjie's words - direct quote
- cut & pasted) mean not searching for the truth behind current
events?
I am quite willing to be proved wrong about
the information that I have found about the Bush family, FEMA
and all of the other nastiness out there. I just want to live
in a safe, peaceful world with my kitty cats and make up and
tell fairy tales. Really. That's all I want. I don't want to
struggle, fight useless and wrong headed fights and take a chance
on social/ political ostracism or persecution!! Tell me all of
these references are a big fat lie and show me the documentation
that proves it so and I will be a very happy camper. Tell me
Ahriman isn't going to incarnate for another couple of hundred
years and there's nothing to worry about now and if I'm really,
really good, I can stop incarnating and go to heaven with my
kitty cats and never have to come back and deal with it again.
I have been told many times in my life that
"you think too much." That's really true. Much too
much!! I have been told, "You make everything too complicated.
Just have simple faith and your life will be much better."
That's true, too!!! Oh how much better my life would be!!!
I don't think I have anything to worry about
as long as I keep my mouth shut, get off this internet thing
and keep a good job. I am white, born Presbyterian and Republican
in New Jersey. I have never been outside continental North America.
True, I was married to a Nicaraguan for a while, but he was a
refugee from the Sandinistas, so that's OK, isn't it? My siblings
and their children seem to be perfectly content with the status
quo, so I don't have to worry about doing anything to protect
them or their children and I don't have any children of my own
to worry about. I can just relax here with my books, music and
videos; forget that I was ever a Waldorf teacher because I probably
won't be again and I can cover those tracks if need be - it was
a long time ago and I've even changed my name since then; save
a little money and take a few cruises and get into soap operas
when I retire. I have plenty to eat, clothes to wear and I don't
need a car because I have public transit and everything is close
enough.
There is absolutely no reason in this world
why I should care about who is in power or what they are doing.
It has nothing at all to do with me. I can "... paddle about
in the Timeless." (direct quote from RS being funny - I'll
get the reference in a sec.) to my heart's content and dream
of Devachans and Archai and Michael fighting the Dragon for me
and I am protected by Angels and don't have to do anything but
believe that all is ultimately for the best.
So please - show me that all of these things
I am reading and seeing on videos and hearing are lies and fabrications
of mentally unstable people that want only to disturb my peaceful,
patriotic life. But you have to do a good job, I don't want even
an inkling of suspicion left. I would be eternally grateful.
Sincerely,
Christine
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
At 23:07 21.12.2003, Christine wrote:
Does being "liberated from sentiments
associated with nationality" (Tarjie's words - direct quote
- cut & pasted) mean not searching for the truth behind current
events?
Quite the contrary: It means that one's vision
of truth should not be blurred or compromised by sentiments associated
with nationality.
Tarjei
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From: Gisele
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
golden3000997 wrote:
I am quite willing to be proved wrong about
the information that I have found about the Bush family, FEMA
and all of the other nastiness out there.
~~~~Wouldn' that be a huge relief?!!! But... no chance...
So please - show me that all of these things
I am reading and seeing on videos and hearing are lies and fabrications
of mentally unstable people that want only to disturb my peaceful,
patriotic life.
~~~~I have felt that way so many times....
If it can be of any help, know that there are others out there
who feel the same.
(And the number is growing daily)
Gisele
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:12 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
Christine wrote:
I am quite willing to be proved wrong about the information
that I have found about the Bush family, FEMA and all of the
other nastiness out there. I just want to live in a safe, peaceful
world with my kitty cats and make up and tell fairy tales. Really.
That's all I want.
Hey Christine, I love you:) What you have
shared may be right and it may be wrong or it may have some right
and wrong in it. I think it is always good to just leave ourselves
open to the possibility on both sides. Dr. Steiners says that
even if you know you are right you must leave open some possibility
that you may not be to a certain extent.
I personally trust this whole Bush affair.
I trust there is a higher reason for it just as there is for
all things even the most devestating. The point would be to understand
if we can what is the overview of said happenings. What are we
learning as a whole? What do you see? And not about how we can't
trust Bush but what is happening all over the world.
Christine
I have been told many times in my life that "you think
too much." That's really true. Much too much!! I have been
told, "You make everything too complicated. Just have simple
faith and your life will be much better." That's true, too!!!
Oh how much better my life would be!!!
Dottie
You are so wonderful. Truly. One time a dear
friend on the Ark hinted that my personal Ark was hitting the
deep and mysterious troubled waters. And it was. And that is
what happens when we are striving to be true to that which we
came here for. Bahumnbug on those people who said you talked
to much. You are a very intelligent, very caring and loving soul.
We all have to work out our personal ways of being in front of
others. Don't take them so serious. Obviously you are one who
comes with a high energy great want for knowledge. And a fire
personality. Good. And you are questioning good. But do not in
your smallness rather do it in what you know is great about you.
Do you know what is great about you? Has no one told you?
Christine
I don't think I have anything to worry about as long as I
keep my mouth shut, get off this internet thing and keep a good
job.
Dottie
Nope. Not really an option. For your great
courageous loving spirit is assisting you on your journey. You
will get what you came here for. And do you know what it is that
you came here for?
Christine
I don't have to worry about doing anything to protect them
or their children and I don't have any children of my own to
worry about.
Dottie
I sense the world are our children Christine.
You really really care. And you are so loved.
Christine
I can just relax here with my books, music and videos; forget
that I was ever a Waldorf teacher because I probably won't be
again and I can cover those tracks if need be - it was a long
time ago and I've even changed my name since then; save a little
money and take a few cruises and get into soap operas when I
retire. I have plenty to eat, clothes to wear and I don't need
a car because I have public transit and everything is close enough.
Dottie
Okay are we through yet with this little cry?
Put on a great record and scream up to the Cosmos. Ask them what
they hell they want from you? And it will be answered.
Love to you,
Dottie
p.s. Was it you who gave us that quote from
Willliamson? I can not recall.
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:35 pm
Subject: Thanks Dottie!
Dottie wrote:
Okay are we through yet with this little
cry? Put on a great record and scream up to the Cosmos. Ask them
what they hell they want from you? And it will be answered.
Love to you,
Dottie
p.s. Was it you who gave us that quote
from Willliamson? I can not recall.
Hi Dottie,
I'm not whining (at the moment) so much as
responding to those who would insist that there is nothing to
get worked up about with what is going on behind the scenes.
I am just letting this particular "personality" out
to play a bit. There is a lot of truth in it, though. There is
a Chinese (I think) proverb/ blessing that says "may you
live in uninteresting times." This would be a GOOD thing.
Unfortunately, I think we missed that bit! Too late now!
Thanks for the pats on the head, though. As
for asking "Them" what they want, I've been doing that
for years. I have a really strong feeling that I'm not going
to like it when I finally receive my "marching orders."
Yes, I forwarded a posting re Williamson from
my Trippy Dippy Hippy group. You know, those people think a lot,
too! A lot like us quite a bit of the time!!! I'm not saying
she is this or that, I haven't really looked into what she's
about. But that quote spoke directly to the conversation that
was going around the other day.
There is a tremendous amount of syncronicity
going around - don't you think?
I hope that you enjoy the Christmas lecture
I posted. Right up our alley, I think!
Blessings and Joy for the Christmas Tide and
may we receive the Light we need for 2004!
Love, hugs & kisses,
Christine
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From: Daniel Hindes
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 4:57 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The White Rose link
Schure, who after meeting Rudolf Steiner on
May 24th, 1906 wrote something to the effect of "all my
life I had studied the great initiates, but when I saw Ruldolf
Steiner I was certain that I had actually met one" felt
that Steiner's position during the first World War was favorable
to the Germany, and sharply and bitterly denounced him as being
"a political agent of pan-German strivings" in a letter
sent July 1916, an attack he was to continue publicly throughout
the war . I remember reading that they reconciled in 1922, when
Schure apologized, but I can't find a reference for that right
now.
Daniel Hindes
----- Original Message -----
From: Tarjei Straume
According to what I've heard or read somewhere,
the warm and excellent friendship between Rudolf Steiner and
Eduard Schure cooled off considerably after the Great War because
of the positions they had held and the sympathies they had during
that war. The war between France and Germany seems to have ruined
the relationship between Steiner and Schure! Can anybody corroborate
this with a reference, or is it just a rumor?
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Dec 22, 2003 5:32 am
Subject: Steiner and Schure
At 01:57 22.12.2003, Daniel wrote:
Schure, who after meeting Rudolf Steiner
on May 24th, 1906 wrote something to the effect of "all
my life I had studied the great initiates, but when I saw Ruldolf
Steiner I was certain that I had actually met one" felt
that Steiner's position during the first World War was favorable
to the Germany, and sharply and bitterly denounced him as being
"a political agent of pan-German strivings" in a letter
sent July 1916, an attack he was to continue publicly throughout
the war . I remember reading that they reconciled in 1922, when
Schure apologized, but I can't find a reference for that right
now.
Thank you Daniel! Perhaps a little historical
research is in order here before it is abused by vindictive propagandists.
(Peter S. has always insisted that Steiner was a pan-Germanist.)
Does anybody know how and why Schure was led to this belief about
RS?
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: Daniel Hindes
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
[Dottie wrote:]
I too have also now come to understand
that just as our current Govenor of California admired Hitlers
ways of getting power and having people nationally proud of themselves
to the detriments of others.
In fairness to Mr. Schwarzenegger I must point
out that this is a distortion of his actual statement, though
this is not the first time it has been taken out of context.
We (anthroposophists) who are so often attacked with distorted
quotes should be especially careful on this point.
"I admire him for being
such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the
people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with
it." Arnold Schwarzenegger to reporter
George Butler in a 1975 interview.
The irony is that Schwarzenegger's statement
actually exemplifies Steiner's 4th preliminary exercise.
Daniel
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
Daniel on Schwarzenegger:
"I admire him for being such a good public speaker and
for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't
admire him for what he did with it." Arnold Schwarzenegger
to reporter George Butler in a 1975 interview.
Dottie
This to me is the same that I said above accept
that I said I used 'national pride' sentiment as well. And who
would possibly admire Hitler for what he did among rational minded
people? And why would one think just because we remarke Hitlers
way of doing things means it extends to the gas chambers. That
is going to an extreme interpretation I think.
In California the people were not worried,
at least the ones I knew, that Arnold meant he liked what Hitler
did, rather it runs to what I was saying in comparison to Mr.
Bush: there is a similar way of getting things done on a large
scale level that is admired. A way of walking lock step to acheive
ones goal irregardless of what it is.
Dottie
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 11:34 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
Daniel
The irony is that Schwarzenegger's statement actually exemplifies
Steiner's 4th preliminary exercise.
Hi Daniel,
I agree here as well. The thought that comes
to mind that there is a difference though if one emulates a certain
thing to effect a certain outcome of said thing that has shown
to be destructive to the cause of freedom. Than we have an issue
I believe.
The Right has put out that the people who
stand against Bush's preemptive doctrine, and other policies
put forth by his administation, hate him. In all the people I
am in contact with I do not know one who has said they hate him.
They do not like his policies nor the double speak so apparent
in all his work so far.
I am not happy about our new govenor for I
sense it was a whitehouse takeover and makeover. However I hope
to see him do good. I hope to see him unite and not divide. Only
time will tell. And if he does well for the people, I will vote
for him next time. If he does not I will not.
Dottie
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From: Daniel Hindes
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
Dottie said:
I too have also now come to understand that just as our current
Govenor of California admired Hitlers ways of getting power and
having people nationally proud of themselves to the detriments
of others.
To which I quoted Mr. Schwarzenegger:
"I admire him for
being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to
the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did
with it." Arnold
Schwarzenegger to reporter George Butler in a 1975 interview.
Dottie, you are reading the statement to be
a praise of using nationalist or other sentiments to unite a
body politic behind a charismatic leader. Your analasys of the
Nazi's methods as exemplified by Hitler are accurate, but are
not present in Mr. Schwarzenegger's statement. He said nothing
about Hitler gaining power.
The phrase "getting to the people"
is different from "getting the people". A native English
speaker would probably say "getting through to people."
I read only a praise of certain of Hitler's personal qualities.
Thus I read Schwarzenegger's statement differently
than you. He is admiring the work Hitler the person had done
on himself and the talents that he manifested, and then lamented
that these were ultimately misused. Admittedly this is a very
sensetive subject, something no public figure these days would
ever touch with a 10 foot pole, because anything to do with Nazism
is so emotionally charged for so many people that there can be
no discourse on the subject. When the statement was dug up from
a 1975 interview it was all over the news (the same news that
everyone on this list claims can't be trusted on anything).
I will again reiterate my reason for bringing
up this quibbling point: There is much in Anthroposophy that
can easily be misread or misrepresented. If we request to be
treated fairly by our critics, we must also treat fairly those
we criticize.
Daniel Hindes
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: The contents of the White Rose link
Daniel
Thus I read Schwarzenegger's statement differently than you.
He is admiring the work Hitler the person had done on himself
and the talents that he manifested, and then lamented that these
were ultimately misused. Admittedly this is a very sensetive
subject, something no public figure these days would ever touch
with a 10 foot pole, because anything to do with Nazism is so
emotionally charged for so many people that there can be no discourse
on the subject. When the statement was dug up from a 1975 interview
it was all over the news (the same news that everyone on this
list claims can't be trusted on anything).
Hi Daniel,
I am right with you. The words I chose can
be read as you have reported but they are not meant in the manner
you understood. The subject was all over the news and it seemed
obviously to me it was either a liberal plant or a McClintock
plant. Either way I was only happy to see it because it really
gave me a good look at my friends who are on the right. I got
a chance to see they would overlook this of Schwarzenagger but
God forbid if it was said about any of the Democrats. For me
and my fellow Democrats it was more interesting to see how the
Right responded versus how we felt about it. For us truly it
did not register other than a 'now how are the republicans going
to slip and slide under this one. What is going to be the outcome
of their party. They were slipping and sliding on all other matters
that usually get them spouting fire when it is a democrat and
suddenly the shoe was on the other foot. Hitler...Sexual Harrassment...it
was like a whoa nelly moment.
I personally feel that we have seen the end
of the republican party as we have come to know it here in California.
And I think that is a good thing for all involved. Governing
from the center would be most perfect to me.
Thanks Daniel for pointing out the difference
in my comments,
Dottie
p.s Daniel wrote:
I will again reiterate my reason for bringing up this quibbling
point: There is much in Anthroposophy that can easily be misread
or misrepresented. If we request to be treated fairly by our
critics, we must also treat fairly those we criticize.
Dottie
I guess I feel I am being fair in my understandings.
I don't like to hear people call Bush a moron, idiot and other
choice names. I don't attend the peace rallies anymore because
they are full of all kinds of nastiness towards the Bush administration.
I think he is small minded and has hurt our country and our world
for future generations to come. And I think his record bears
this out.
Sincerely,
Dottie
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From: Daniel Hindes
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
Dottie,
I hope you will forgive me for staying with this issue for far
longer than it really deserves. I see your point about the Republicans,
California and politics. From what I have heard, Schwarzenegger
is really vulnerable on the issue of sexual harassment. The reason
his alleged Nazi sympathies didn't really stick probably has
a lot to do with his history of suppporting Jewish causes. All
sorts of people prominent in Jewish causes stepped up to defend
him.
What I find interesting is your statement
to the effect of: "That may be what he said, but it is not
what he meant." Pardon me for pointing it out, but that
is exactly what the critics on the WC list do whenever an Anthroposophist
quotes Steiner. To understand what he meant it might be helpful
to read the whole interview, as well as the statements of the
interviewer as to how he took it at the time. Knowing what he
meant in spite of what he said is not the mark of an open mind.
I would suggest that if you were to look into the matter further,
you would find little to support your contention and much that
is contradictory.
Daniel Hindes
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:36 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
Dottie,
I hope you will forgive me for staying with this issue for far
longer than it really deserves. I see your point about the Republicans,
California and politics. From what I have heard, Schwarzenegger
is really vulnerable on the issue of sexual harassment. The reason
his alleged Nazi sympathies didn't really stick probably has
a lot to do with his history of suppporting Jewish causes.
Hi Daniel,
No, I do not mind us sticking here. I don't
agree the Nazi sympathies didn't stick was because he has a history
of supporting Jews. That never really came out in the paper.
The reason it didn't stick is because it wasn't an issue for
Democrats it was an issue for the Republicans. And because it
was one of their own and they were damned determined to get a
Republican in office they let it die. The democrats are a people
of many natures but meanspiritedness is not a word I would apply
to them as I can to the Republican Right.
Not only did they dismiss this charge and
the sexist charge they also dismissed and are willing to dismiss
a few other pet peeves of theirs: one being you must be american
to be president and the other is that your wife must not be a
democrat. Now these things may sound silly to you but from an
insider as I have been welcomed they are very serious to my Republican
Right friends. Very serious.
The only reason we had to have this election
was because, I believe is because 1) Arnold was not prepared
when he tested the waters when the original election was held
and the stuff hit the fan about his groping, 2) the Republicans
were convinced that Riordan could not be trusted because his
wife is a democrat, 3) they forced Simon on us knowing he was
weak. Now, I believe that Riordan would have beat Davis. I for
one would have voted for him as I dig his initiatives. Now, not
all of them but many of them.
And what happened. Simon lost because he was
too extreme even though many of the democrats view Davis as a
closet somewhat Republican. Interesting to know that Davis is
more conservative than Schwarzenager to a certain extent: Davis
was very good on heavy police support, no parole for convicted
murderers and so on: but he was a democrat.
And MAria Shriver is a class A Democrat. It
will be very interesting to see the outcome of this election
and this man Schwarzeneggar. I was not for the recall because
I felt it was a washington ploy that was in from the beginning.
Even unto Hatch and another fellow republican looking to make
it possibly if you are a naturalized citizen to become president
of the united states after 30 years of being a citizen. Interesting
timing I would say. But I think Mr. Scwarzenegger has a few aces
up his sleeve that nobody except his wife knows about.
Daniel
What I find interesting is your statement to the effect of:
"That may be what he said, but it is not what he meant."
Pardon me for pointing it out, but that is exactly what the critics
on the WC list do whenever an Anthroposophist quotes Steiner.
Dottie
I do not have it in front of me but I do believe
I said 'that may be what 'I' said, but is not what I
meant. I was not speaking of Arnold I was speaking of your
interpretation of my comments regarding national pride.
Daniel
Knowing what he meant in spite of what he said is not the
mark of an open mind. I would suggest that if you were to look
into the matter further, you would find little to support your
contention and much that is contradictory.
Dottie
Well, I will just let you go on this one as
you have misinterpreted and misplaced my words as you can look
below. I will leave just them so you can see of what I speak.
You put in the words 'HE' when that is not what I said and I
was referring to myself. My mind is very open and I look to be
that as much as I humanely can. It is one of the most important
aspects of spiritual research; to have an open mind.
Sincerely,
Dottie
I am speaking of my stating my original quote
being what you reported but not what I meant to convey according
to the words I spoke. I was saying in effect that you were right
that my words can be understood in how you responded to them,
and I wrote them, but your interpretation of that particular
quote was not what I was trying to convey although I did understand
how you came about that particular understanding through the
words I chose in the previous post.
Dottie
The words I chose can be read as you have
reported but they are not meant in the manner you understood.
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: The contents of the
White Rose link
At 02:36 22.12.2003, Dottie wrote:
The democrats are a people of many natures
but meanspiritedness is not a word I would apply to them as I
can to the Republican Right.
Wait a minute. Tricky Dick learned all his
dirty tricks from the Kennedys, when they did everything in their
power to smear and destroy him after the 1960 election, where
Jack Kennedy actually stole the presidency through election fraud.
They had the power AND all the money to do it. Bobby Kennedy
even abused his office as Attorney General by sending the IRS
after Nixon's parents, trying to dig up some old tax irregularities,
without success. And Washington was a hellish place to be during
the reign of LBJ. He had J. Edgar Hoover collect all kinds of
dirty secrets on his political opponents - if they were gay,
which cat houses they went to, things like that. And he could
prove it with photos, wiretaps etc. He used this leverage to
make them vote his way on various issues. FDR accumulated so
much power in this manner that they had to change the constitution
to limit a president's time in office to 8 years; otherwise you
would get presidents for life like they have in banana republics.
Frank Sinatra switched to the Republicans
because of the way the Kennedys had treated him: They ask for
his help to have the mob support their election, and when they
won, they gave himn the cold shoulder and became his enemies
in order to appear mob-clean.
Like Harry Browne said, there is only one
political party in the United States: The demopublican party.
To say that one of those 2 parties is more
ethical or moral or cool or whatever than the other is nonsense.
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Dec 21, 2003 6:22 pm
Subject: Re: The contents of the White Rose link
Tarjei wrote:
To say that one of those 2 parties is more ethical or moral
or cool or whatever than the other is nonsense.
Hi Tarjei,
Ethical and moral have nothing to do with
it. I did not live in those days. I live in todays world and
the Republican Right tend to be very meanspirited and I find
it so disgusting. I am not speaking of moral codes and whathaveyou,
I am speaking of a way of getting what you want and anihilating
others to do it. And I am not speaking of all Republicans either
I am speaking of the Religous right, the ones who claim God is
on their side. They not only are taking away the American flag
they are also trying to take away Christ. Spiritual people who
tend to be open to various understandings of various Master Teachers
are turned off by this Christ the Religious right claims. I have
to constantly state 'lets get past what they say about God and
lets get back to what Jesus says'. They are creating a false
prophet scenario.
Why do you think the Democrats are so mad
at their own stream and claim them not to have a backbone? Because
they do not fight fire with fire. And the one who lies the best
wins.
Dottie
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From: golden3000997
Date: Sat Jan 10, 2004 7:15 pm
Subject: (no subject)
http://www.jlrweb.com/whiterose/leafoneeng.html
Leaflets of The White Rose*
The First Leaflet
Nothing is so unworthy of
a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without
opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base
instinct. It is certain that today every honest German is ashamed
of his government. Who among us has any conception of the dimensions
of shame that will befall us and our children when one day the
veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of crimes
- crimes that infinitely outdistance every human measure - reach
the light of day? If the German people are already so corrupted
and spiritually crushed that they do not raise a hand, frivolously
trusting in a questionable faith in lawful order of history;
if they surrender man’s highest principle, that which raises
him above all other God’s creatures, his free will; if they
abandon the will to take decisive action and turn the wheel of
history and thus subject it to their own rational decision; if
they are so devoid of all individuality, have already gone so
far along the road toward turning into a spiritless and cowardly
mass - then, yes, they deserve their downfall. Goethe speaks
of the Germans as a tragic people, like the Jews and the Greeks,
but today it would appear rather that they are a spineless, will-less
herd of hangers-on, who now - the marrow sucked out of their
bones, robbed of their center of stability - are waiting to be
hounded to their destruction. So it seems - but it is not so.
Rather, by means of gradual, treacherous, systematic abuse, the
system has put every man into a spiritual prison. Only now, finding
himself lying in fetters, has he become aware of his fate. Only
a few recognized the threat of ruin, and the reward for their
heroic warning was death. We will have more to say about the
fate of these persons. If everyone waits until the other man
makes a start, the messengers of avenging Nemesis will come steadily
closer; then even the last victim will have been cast senselessly
into the maw of the insatiable demon. Therefore every individual,
conscious of his responsibility as a member of Christian and
Western civilization, must defend himself as best he can at this
late hour, he must work against the scourges of mankind, against
fascism and any similar system of totalitarianism. Offer passive
resistance - resistance - wherever you may be, forestall the
spread of this atheistic war machine before it is too late, before
the last cities, like Cologne, have been reduced to rubble, and
before the nation’s last young man has given his blood on
some battlefield for the hubris of a sub-human. Do not forget
that every people deserves the regime it is willing to endure!
From Freidrich Schiller’s The Lawgiving of Lycurgus and
Solon:
Viewed in relation to its
purposes, the law code of Lycurgus is a masterpiece of political
science and knowledge of human nature. He desired a powerful,
unassailable start, firmly established on its own principles.
Political effectiveness and permanence were the goal toward which
he strove, and he attained
this goal to the full extent possible under possible under the
circumstances. But if one compares the purpose Lycurgus had in
view with the purposes of mankind, then a deep abhorrence takes
the place of the approbation which we felt at first glance. Anything
may be sacrificed to the good of the state except that end for
which the State serves as a means. The state is never an end
in itself; it is important only as a condition under which the
purpose of mankind can be attained, and this purpose is none
other than the development of all man’s power, his progress
and improvement. If a state prevents the development of the capacities
which reside in man, if it interferes with the progress of the
human spirit, then it is reprehensible and injurious, no matter
how excellently devised, how perfect in its own way. Its very
permanence in that case amounts more to a reproach than to a
basis for fame; it be comes a prolonged evil, and the longer
it endures, the more harmful it is.... At the price of all moral
feeling a political system was set up, and the resources of the
state were mobilized to that end. In Sparta there was no conjugal
love, no mother love, no filial devotion, no friendship; all
men were citizens only, and all virtue was civic virtue.
A law of the state made it
the duty of Spartans to be inhumane to their slaves; in these
unhappy victims of war humanity itself was insulted and mistreated.
In the Spartan code of law the dangerous principle was promulgated
that men are to be looked upon as means and not as ends - and
the foundation of natural law and of morality were destroyed
by that law....
What an admirable sight is
afforded, by contrast, by the rough soldier Gaius Marcius in
his camp before Rome, when he renounced ven