From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:25 am
Subject: Charlatan's ways
Charlatan's ways.
Dear list
like everyone involved in the attempt to demonstrate
that black is white and white is black the charlatan uses some
tricks, well known by historians' of philosophers' quarrels researchers.
(It's a technique pretty similar to the one
used by Shoah's "denialists" )
If you note well, not only on the list but
also following his writings he uses to pervert the truth in the
following ways:
1) He minimizes the facts the are in harsh
contradictions with his thesis . He did so, for instance, talking
about Hitler's article on Steiner (1921) or about the Nazi-volkisch
attempt to kill RS (1922) and most of all about the "strange"
facts that Nazi in 1935 banned out GAS, after having carefully
investigated and rejected some Anthroposophy's basic issues.
2)He emphasized , out of general context some
pretty marginal issue, for instance 1880's RS's "pangermanism"
(it should have been better if he were a supporter of mummified
Absburg's Emperors...)- (I have also an occult-based, secret
information to give: the first world Steiner told at the age
of 14 months was " Deutschland!!")
3) In his perverted game he uses as supports
over and over historians and writers who got in their brains
the same kind of materialistic prejudices like him, aka the infamous
Webb or the more respectable Poliakov, in order to give strength
to his feeble thesis.
4) He invents at all some historical fantasy
like the one about "green wing" into NSDAP , (There
never has been something like this-like every historian knows-
but only some tendencies toward "good farming", that
demonstrates that , if "Nazi too", appreciates biodynamic
, wow it really fits!!)
5) Most of all: he has no actual knowledge
and no credential about Steiner's worldwiew and, most of all
again , no will or capacity to enter this world having built
all his weltanschauung upon politically oriented prejudices.
Can we say now that. discussing with such
a faggot, we are losing our time ?
NO....
Hi. people what a good example of "Ahrimanic
deception" is this!
Andrea
Don
Pedro
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 11:52 am
Subject: Fags and faggots (was: Charlatan's ways)
At 13:25 23.02.2004, Andrea wrote:
Can we say now that. discussing with such
a faggot, we are losing our time ?
Reminds me of decades ago when I moved to
the U.S after being accustomed to British English, and I had
to learn that you didn't get pissed by drinking too much beer
or liquor but by something making you angry, and that you didn't
ask someone for a fag when you were out of cigarettes.
Which reminds me, faggot is a derogatory term
against gays used by homophobes. I don't know if Peter S is gay
or "straight" or bisexual, but whatever his sexual
orientation may be, it's beyond the scope of this thread's topic.
We may discuss homophilia and homophobia and
gay lifestyles gay-bashing and what have you in a separate thread,
but it wouldn't be any fun without some tough religious right-wingers,
most of whom stick to other lists like that of Starman, for instance.
What I'm trying to say is that it's not necessary
to insult gay people in order to take a punch at an individual
contributor. We don't seem to have a rule against ad hominems
here, but you're going to use one, it's a good idea to choose
an ad hominem that is relevant to the argument and the topic
at hand.
Incidentally, here are some guides to flaming:
http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p71.html
http://www.advicemeant.com/flame/
http://www.firelily.com/humor/rants/danger.html
Cheers,
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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From: Frank Thomas Smith
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:04 pm
Subject: RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Fags and faggots (was:
Charlatan's ways)
C'mon, Tarjei, you're sounding like Dan D.
Anyway, Andrea is innocent. He was mentally translating from
the Italian "fagotto" = bassoon. Anything wrong with
calling Don Pedro a bassoon?
What I'm trying to say is that it's not
necessary to insult gay people in order to take a punch at an
individual contributor. We don't seem to have a rule against
ad hominems here, but you're going to use one, it's a good idea
to choose an ad hominem that is relevant to the argument and
the topic at hand.
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:20 pm
Subject: RE: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Fags and faggots (was:
Charlatan's ways)
At 21:04 23.02.2004, Frank wrote:
C'mon, Tarjei, you're sounding like Dan
D.
I don't mind that. He's a courteous gentleman
for the most part.
Anyway, Andrea is innocent. He was mentally
translating from the Italian "fagotto" = bassoon. Anything
wrong with calling Don Pedro a bassoon?
I guess not - I just need to brush up on my
Italian :)
Tarjei
Don Pedro
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