Fwd: grateful graduate

 

From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:34 pm
Subject: Fwd: grateful graduate

I think that this person's quote:

What I can say for sure is that I am incredibly grateful to have had this education. I feel it has given me faculties and capacities that I would not have gained in mainstream education. I feel that my inherent gifts have been developed and nurtured through this system, and I feel a sense of inner freedom from all external influences - be they cultural, religious, national or whatever. To have the capacity to think independently, and the courage and capacity to follow these through to fruition is the greatest gift that any education can give to a child.

is relevant to our ongoing discussion of the moment.

Christine

From: Dan Dugan
Date: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:54 am
Subject: grateful graduate
To: waldorf-critics@topica.com

Sarah Benson, thanks for writing to us. Your subject-less message almost went out with the spam!

This reply is being posted on the waldorf-critics discussion list, and I invite you to subscribe and engage in a discussion about the points you raise.

Hullo

I'm a 52 year-old ex-Steiner school pupil from England. I now live and work in Australia.

What school did you go to? What grades?

I've just discovered your critique of the Waldorf system on the net and have printed it off.

Surely you only printed parts of it...

After a quick skim through, I find that some of the criticisms are valid, and others are based perhaps on a lack of understanding as to what the schools are trying to achieve.

I would appreciate hearing what you think is based on misunderstanding.

What I can say for sure is that I am incredibly grateful to have had this education. I feel it has given me faculties and capacities that I would not have gained in mainstream education. I feel that my inherent gifts have been developed and nurtured through this system, and I feel a sense of inner freedom from all external influences - be they cultural, religious, national or whatever. To have the capacity to think independently, and the courage and capacity to follow these through to fruition is the greatest gift that any education can give to a child.

How do you think that happened? What aspects of the curriculum or pedagogy do you think developed your inherent gifts?

I know, too, of many other ex-Steiner school students who have done exceptionally well in their lives in whatever they have decided to undertake, and have on many occasions been impressed by the heights to which some have risen, in spite of the very 'different' nature of the primary curriculum.

We are a sort of global complaint box, and we hear about a lot of failures!

Having said that, I must say that the cult-like nature of most of the schools and also of Anthroposophy is also something that I am critical of. There is a general lack of interest and involvement with mainstream culture that I think is counter-productive. The one criticism I have of Waldorf education is that it does not run career advice courses or teach politics - but then again one could say the same about some mainstream schools!

I still take an interest in Steiner's ideas and writings - for which it is largely necessary to keep an open mind and heart.

What are you reading? Do you attend discussion groups?

Waldorf schools may not be right for every child, however I think if mainstream education absorbs some of the ideas it could help the Waldorf system evolve in a healthy way.

I agree with that, but I think the good ideas, like integration of art, are not fundamental to the Waldorf system, nor are they unique to it.

Regards

Sarah Benson
Researcher and Electorate Officer to Senator Lyn Allison
Australian Democrats
62 Wellington Parade
East Melbourne VIC 3002
Australia

Phone 61 3 9416 1880
Fax 61 3 9417 1690

-Dan Dugan
Secretary, PLANS, Inc.

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From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 4:56 am
Subject: Re: grateful graduate

Mr. Dugan,

There is no such thing as a "Steiner cult" and you know it. This is a vicious and evil lie and I have already forwarded you substantial definitions of what a cult is and isn't and how, according to those definitions neither Anthroposophy nor Waldorf Education is, was or ever will be a cult.

Given the true meaning of the word "cult" in this society as a group which manipulates and abuses its members, applying this word to the Anthroposophical Society and the Waldorf Movement is absolute slander and libel.

You will be held responsible for both your use of this word and the intention behind it, hopefully in court.

I would suggest that in your search for the truth about Anthroposophy and Waldorf Education, you do some objective research on the definition and correct application of the word "cult"; that you cease using it immediately in connection with either Waldorf Education or the Anthroposophical Society; and that you print a retraction of your former use of the word in relation to either one of these entities.

I am pretty sure that your egotism will not allow you to admit that you are wrong and to do the right thing. But I hope for your sake that I am wrong in that evaluation, just as you are terribly wrong in yours.

Christine Natale
March 9, 2004

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From: golden3000997
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 3:26 pm
Subject: Fwd: grateful graduate

From: Dan Dugan
Date: Tue Mar 9, 2004 10:39 am
Subject: Re: grateful graduate
To: waldorf-critics@topica.com

Mr. Dugan,

There is no such thing as a "Steiner cult" and you know it.

<gumpvoice> Cults is as cults does. </gumpvoice>

This is a vicious and evil lie and I have already forwarded you substantial definitions of what a cult is and isn't and how, according to those definitions neither Anthroposophy nor Waldorf Education is, was or ever will be a cult.

My opinion differs from yours.

Given the true meaning of the word "cult" in this society as a group which manipulates and abuses its members, applying this word to the Anthroposophical Society and the Waldorf Movement is absolute slander and libel.

It isn't libel to state an opinion, nor is it libel to point out facts. I call Anthroposophy a cult-like religious sect. There is abundant evidence to support this opinion.

You will be held responsible for both your use of this word and the intention behind it, hopefully in court.

I would suggest that in your search for the truth about Anthroposophy and Waldorf Education, you do some objective research on the definition and correct application of the word "cult"; that you cease using it immediately in connection with either Waldorf Education or the Anthroposophical Society; and that you print a retraction of your former use of the word in relation to either one of these entities.

So sue me. We'd love to have publicity about this issue.

I am pretty sure that your egotism will not allow you to admit that you are wrong and to do the right thing. But I hope for your sake that I am wrong in that evaluation, just as you are terribly wrong in yours.

Christine Natale
March 9, 2004

Christine, your religion will get more respect when it starts behaving respectably. Here is a list of cult-like characteristics that's published on the PLANS web site:

Posted to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...

Cult-like characteristics of Anthroposophy include:

* It clings to rejected knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)

* It requires teachers to commit to the world-view for advancement in status.
(college of teachers)

* Its core doctrines are not published.
(First Class)

* It is exclusive.
(Only Anthroposophical knowledge of man leads to right education)

* It guards revelation of "difficult" knowledge.
(Prospective parents won't be told about the role of Lucifer)

* It is a closed system.
(Almost all publications referenced are from Anthroposophical presses and periodicals, all writers refer to Steiner)

* It uses jargon that redefines common terms.
(Child development)

* It maintains separation from the world by generating fear and loathing.
(Denigrating public schools, "us vs them" attitude, paranoia)

* It suppresses critical dialogue, resulting in elaboration but no development of theory.
(Consensus government, "like it or leave," Shunning)

-Dan Dugan

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You can ask any question about Waldorf you like here, no matter how basic.
New threads are always welcome.

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From: at
Date: Wed Mar 10, 2004 3:43 pm
Subject: Re: grateful graduate

[Dan Dugan:]

* Its core doctrines are not published.
(First Class)

The First Class hardly constitues the "core doctrines" or Anthroposophy. And the texts of the First Class are published and available publicly in Germany. I am not sure of distribution in the US, but it is really not hard to get a hold of a copy in English either.

-Dan Dugan

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You can ask any question about Waldorf you like here, no matter how basic.
New threads are always welcome.

Just don't expect a knowledgeable answer.

Daniel Hindes

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From: holderlin66
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:35 am
Subject: Re: Fwd: grateful graduate

golden3000997 wrote:

to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...

Cult-like characteristics of Anthroposophy include:

* It clings to rejected knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)

Bradford shocked!

What hairbrained dim wit, including the entire medical profession, that treats the beating heart, invents pumps, and imagines the heart is a pump, and still sticks to this stale fable? This argument, along with the quotes recently used by Peter, full quotes, dealing with the embryo and Mother and heredity or with the "Wandering Jew" legend are so interesting to answer and so bent in the minds of those supporting materialism that it is almost fun to give it a run. It is almost hopeless to inform a rock what a dog is.

I intend to come at these blundering of bulls in a swimming pool to see if we can drop an electric cord in the pool. We hear lot of splashing and a lot of bellowing but no vision. Where is the Zap? Can't swim, well don't jump into the pool. Have a failed vision of the human being, well strive no more, your not alone.

Unexplored treachery;

There is no astral body/rooted in the nervous system:
There is no etheric body/rooted in the metabolism and lymph system
There is no division of the New I AM in the Blood, that defies the idea of blood and heredity.
There is no Life Tableau that has been witnessed by patients and doctors alike as well as Emergency units.

Now the piston that pumps the blood has been foolishly accepted because the medical profession must learn to look upon the physical form, mechancially. The sensitivity of the heart in every aspect of thought, sport, passion, and love as well as blushing and blanching is so not a pump, and nothing in the heart that has been the focus of such immense universal treasure and profoundity should ever have been misunderstood the way it has come about and now has become fact in Dan Dugan's dim witted brain.

The living, pulsing human being is not a mechanical life and death ken and barbie mechanism so that once Dan has heard a theory and a Doctor has said something, life is solved. Nothing before birth, nothing after death, don't ask don't tell and He refuses to hear the reports that contradict the lie. Dugan puts himself in the most idiotic stand point of siding with a nearly criminal AMA delusion based on man as mechanism. This is what you want our child to accept? What, so they learn not to ask questions or become as interesting as Richard Feynman, at least? This, and thousands of other bald faced lies, just so you don't have to make an effort to think?

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/RelArtic/Marinelli/

"In a movie made by Bremer of the beating embryonic heart, one observes that the spiraling blood is boosted by the pulsating heart without creating turbulence in the blood. This suggests that the momentum transfer occurring between the heart and blood is in phase; the heart must somehow sense the motion of the blood and respond to it in turn with a spiraling impulses at the same velocities as the blood, thereby combining blood and heart momenta.

It is assumed that heart muscle layers have the same velocity distribution pattern as the concentric streams of a free vortex to enable heart and blood motions to couple in multi-velocity phase. It was significant to observe that the movement of the heart occurred with minimal inward motion of the heart wall. That the streaming of the blood can be observed before the functioning of the heart is supported by observations that the circulation in the early chick embryo is maintained for around 10 minutes after the heart had been excised. Moreover, the inherent mobility of the blood was highlighted by Pomerance and Davies, who found an embryo that lived to term without a heart but was born dead and grossly disfigured. Thus, the composite view of the embryonic cardiovascular system tells us that the blood is not propelled by pressure, but rather moves with its own biological momentum and with its own intrinsic flow pattern."

Both Peter and Dan are clinging, nay wallowing, in such retarded ideas, that I would be surprised if their mommies and daddies had ever fully weaned them from diapers. To expand the understanding of what a human being or the human race is and where it is going, requires the soul to TEST to see if Steiner was valid. In the above example hundreds of people have TESTED Steiner and the validity is clear. The Heart is not a Pump, nor do Angels wear shoes.

Is thought bound by the brain, or have we ever thought of someone and the phone rings and it was the person we were thinking of? Thought is not bound by the brain, it moves as light and quicker than the fable that it takes a million years for light to get to us, dim wits on earth. Thought is faster than 186,000 miles per second. Should we wait for the next incarnation of Richard Feynman to prove it?

What is idiotic is the amazing adolescent idea that the body is some self contained, detached, mechancial perpetual motion machine, where nobody can understand or see your thinking, nobody can see deeper than Dan Dugan and Peter and no one has taken the time to test Dr. Steiner's theories. That remedies in plants have no effect? Dan you are growing to the dimension of moron. Along with other miracles, Spiritual Science, farming and medicine are extremely practical realities. I have tasted the results and compared them.

The sheer adolescent stubbornness to box themselves, ourselves into theories of the universe that don't stand up and that are mere fantastic theories that Big Bang around in a cereal box and are mere fads, when much more logical outlines exist, is living in the switcheroo from Faith in Religion to Faith in the latest unproven theories of Science. Unproven fables of science are taught as solid SAT FAct, even when full of holes and pounded into our childrens heads. Science reveals an understanding of the dramatic, unseen shift from Faith in the Church to Faith in the Fables of Science. This can be accurately measured in a 500 year pivot.

Richard Feynman;

"Feynman thinks that what a religion says about ethics is not rationally determinable, and what a religion says about the nature of the universe is a matter subject to rational investigation and is problematic on those grounds. So the man who comes to value scientific rationality as Feynman understands it will come to see religion as a set of falsehoods useful to persuade people to behave ethically.

As we have seen, though, Feynman misrepresents the nature of scientific rationality in his lectures. Assuming that he and other science professors misrepresent the nature of scientific rationality to their students as well, we can begin to see why the students become atheists. From the false information they receive from their elders, they cannot help but reason falsely about the nature of religious belief. Were the students to realize that their training as scientists was actually training in investigation and not in questioning, that each of them must give his assent to thousands of unproven claims in order for the field to progress, they might see that scientific reasoning is of a piece with reasoning in metaphysics, theology, and ethics. The difference is that its subject matter, the physical universe, makes reasoning much easier."

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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:59 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: Fwd: grateful graduate

Hi Brad,

I have to inform you that I felt myself free to forward some of your brillant posts (like this) to some Italian fellow anthrop. (So they'll be sure that there are powerful "mika-el-ites" also outside Italy.....) The same people wish to know something more about PS and DD I'm giving the right infos about them ( You see, some of Italian anthropop is so an unkind guy....)

A.

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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:19 pm
Subject: grateful graduate/Reckoning with Steiner

holderlin66 wrote:

Following some expanded notes:

to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...

Cult-like characteristics of Anthroposophy include:

* It clings to rejected knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)

Now the piston that pumps the blood has been foolishly accepted because the medical profession must learn to look upon the physical form, mechancially. The sensitivity of the heart in every aspect of thought, sport, passion, and love as well as blushing and blanching is so not a pump, and nothing in the heart that has been the focus of such immense universal treasure and profoundity should ever have been misunderstood the way it has come about and now has become fact in Dan Dugan's dim witted brain.

http://www.elib.com/Steiner/RelArtic/Marinelli/

To expand the understanding of what a human being or the human race is and where it is going, requires the soul to TEST to see if Steiner was valid. In the above example hundreds of people have TESTED Steiner and the validity is clear. The Heart is not a Pump, nor do Angels wear shoes.

Bradford adds:

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/psco/year25/8710.shtml

"II. In the Hodayot, or Thanksgiving, Scroll several hymns express the idea that knowledge of heavenly secrets actually signifies participation with angels. This would be unremarkable, since angels in general were the transmitters of special divine revelation; but here at Qumran knowledge from the angels explicitly made one like one of the angels — an angelic status through gnosis (1QH 3:19-23; 6:12-14). "

Diastole and Systole of the Heart:

Dia is the filling of up of Divine or Dia "... dia tous angelous. It appeared to me, from a Qumran parallel to the phrase dia tous angelous, that Paul was presupposing the presence of angels during Corinthian worship."

This not only is vitally important but it is like so much of the details of life that stand around us, unexplored. No educational reality is thrown on the heart except by Poets and the Sentient Soul swarmy substance of sex, dysfuntion and instinct. But I am exactly refering to the Suction from above in the Thought world and the flow into the limbs, and feelings. In the Gap, is an Angelic, POF, higher field reality. I is hardly right that we from the Michael School are unable to explore the details of all this with the mighty tools of thinking given to us. Yet we generally mosey around, sniffing here and sniffing there and find ourselves like some 2 ton American munching at a Salad Bar. Spiritual Science is not some salad bar, it loaded, loaded with such right potent forces that it staggers me that we spend so much effort on uninspired trivia.

The glass being half full or half empty shares in our understanding of the action of the heart in filling and emptying. Systole is to empty but this word DIA or Diastole brings us to a very core mystery of the heart and the gap of higher intuition in the heart.

To empty and fill the heart, to have the Emotional and liquid golden substance of the higher Self in the heart begins a process where in the future Organ of the Heart as the future seat of our brains, brings us closer to the influx and release of Divine forces through the medium of our hearts.

The very enormity of looking at the spread and circulation of where the blood covers, circulates and spreads over our entire body, to comparing it to the future Brain that Steiner has talked about, and looking at the pale, little shrunken nerve use of the light generator in this Beetle Cased skull, left over from the Old Moon, should make us imagine. But we fail, and fail again to imagine and sometimes, I wonder are we made of concrete? So much of our most precious cultural contributions come from our grasp of placing the Heart as the new Sun of the Soul.

There is the mighty meditation of the Heart encircled by thorns or crowned with the crown of Sainthood. But Steiner has offered us something stunning to contemplate and Imagine. Do we? Ha. Vital issues we just stare at this Steiner stuff but it is pulse, it is vision, it is race forming substance of the future UnFallen Soul condition which our I AM's are in training for. This is not lukewarm, to be spat out, this is sizzling with insights.

To examine what potential lives in the future of our hearts brings us to what the Halo of the Saint really means. How the purified emotional astral body that recieves the Higher Christ Astral body as a Thinking faculty of the new heart enters the uplifted cup of the Personality of our Human Selves. Nothing is more profound than the Freedom to be the Personality that you have shaped in dozens of incarnations but able to access the Emotional mystery of the Astral Christ heart. If Christ had not worn and was not invested with a human heart and felt the emotions of Mankind, such a gift, a gift grafted into the legacy of the gods to humanity, would not have been possible. Therefore ask our fellows, is the heart a pump? Therefore we should ask, what is Spirit Self? What Stage does that look like?

But we also have to ask, there is no need for Bradford to yap about the wonders of the Astral body of Christ, when the Unfallen Adamic/AnthroSophic soul is the reconstruction required of fallen man to prepare for understanding and bringing to bear the powerful future of the Immortal I AM down into his form. I suspect we need to re-read that sentence rather carefully. There is no doubt, that this is the inroad, the I AM, which will reshape Race forming and the cohesive human form of the future.

Freckles, well I dare not speak about freckles, or skin tone, or smoothness of texture in skin in relation to thought, but the difference will begin to show within the harmony and context of how the I Am has been reshaped by its efforts with the AnthroSophic unfallen garment of soul, as an overall Model, outlined out of Spiritual Science will slowly appear as body. If repulsion of the AnthroSophic Soul forced one into lies and deceptions, this is going to start arising, it won't be merely Cancer after three incarnations of deception and adoration of materialism.

Respiration:

Includes waking and Sleeping and communion with what the plant community bequeaths to our lungs. It entails carbon and diamond. It entails oil and life. It reveals pollution and food for the Plants. Oil to kill over, gas to drive to destiny, and maintain a corporate work identity and do your part to keep the political machinery running.

Respiration reveals the give and take of plant and Man and what the carbon atom with it's 12 fold micro picture of the zodiac tells us about looking into a microscope or looking out into the Stars. Are we Carbon based life forms and what does it mean?

"The standard of atomic weights is based on the carbon atom. Carbon12 is defined to have a mass of exactly 12 amu. Carbon12 contains 6 protons, 6 neutrons, and 12 electrons for a total combined mass of 12.10 amu. The extra 0.10 amu was converted into energy during the process of fusing hydrogen to helium to carbon in the core of a star."

Hardly anything closer to esoteric Persian, Zarathustrian cosmology exists, let alone the Manichean philosophy of Light and matter, which we avoid thinking about as much as we avoid the depth of Steiner.

Now when the uneducated ask us to enter science and the atomic table, matter and how Christ penetrated Matter, you think I am hard to follow now, most of the people on this very list have contributed nothing to the battle that Christ actually commanded the atomic structure. He did and Steiner showed us how he did it. Our deer in the headlights grasp over Oppenheimer and Ahriman's 12 year mission to plant the Fear of Light in the heart of man even fails at Spiritually grasping the greatness of the history we are living in the Michael School. It reveals to me a lack of insight and grasp of what is Science and how Christ is Science not faith. We get very few takers, who take the ball by themselves and run with it. They sit there, hoping I didn't say what I meant. Maybe hoping Steiner was just teasing us?

Steiner in his "St. John, in relation to the other Gospels" delivers the highest revelation of how the UnFallen Adam Soul forces, bearing Christ, begin stepping up intensity, and intensity, after intensity as Christ penetrates beyond the Wine, through Death's gates and down to the blood and bone matter of man. What is the failure in thinking and laziness that prevents those with clearer thoughts than I from showing the difference between the controlled and contained Love and Light implosion in Jesus at the Transfiguration, the sweating of blood, The Seraphim infusion = Against the outward, immoral, release of raw uncontained Light, locked in matter and effecting the very bones of humanity of Strontium 90. What failure of understanding, do we still blunder about with?

"1. The Tooth Fairy Project

Strontium 90 mimics calcium. Plants can not tell the difference due to their similiarities. Large quantities of radioactive strontium 90 were spread over our planet by nuclear weapons testing in the 1940's and 1950's. Plants have been bioaccumulating (concentrating) this strontium 90 and then we eat those plants. Our bodies are also fooled by strontium 90. In a breakthrough study done in 1958 by Barry Commoner and others, it was shown that the teeth of every baby in the country had some level of strontium 90 accumulation.

When this information was released, it caused such a stir that it is sometimes cited as the real reason for the above ground test ban treaty. Strontium 90 is a radioactive fission product produced by either nuclear weapons or nuclear bombs. Before the first fissioning in the 1940's, strontium 90 did not exist on our planet. It is a totally man made element with a half life of 28 years. This relatively middle range half life is part of the reason strontium 90 is so dangerous, along with its similiarity to calcium.

Even very small quantities of strontium 90, when incorporated into a persons teeth and bones, would be doing great damage internally. Women also accumulate large quantities of calcium in their breast milk. If strontium 90 is bioaccumulating in womens breasts, it could account for the rise in breast cancer. The only reasonable course of action is to oppose any further production of this dangerous element."

http://www.prop1.org/ice/toothfairy.htm

Bradford concludes;

It always seems to take some interloper to gain the engine of the I AM, usually in idle mode, to wake itself up. But if our ever so conservative Anthro's would wake their asses up, there is no reason not to understand Current World Events and as we have proven, 20Th Century Germanic Events in a terrific fresh light.

To sleep perhance to dream.. Respiration is not only a question of sleeping and waking but incarnation and excarnation. Leaving the etheric body guarding the physical body as we sleep, while we travel out to the Stars with our astral body and fledgling ego is a well understood experience but still unfathomed in our sciences.

Can a Dan Dugan, Peter or Diana, let alone half the people on this list, understand how the etheric body hangs out with its friend the physical, heredity, genetic, stem, root body, while the Astral body and Ego go off tramping through starry worlds, faster than any 186,000 mile speed limit set by Einstein?

If we understood this, we could begin to shift our paradigms. We would have to begin to understand that the former etheric domination of heredity would be overshadowed now by the new informing forces coming out of our I AM development. We would be forced to shift to understanding the Star and Sophia mandate against the forced cloning mandate that is approaching us with ugly rehased Nazi/American Biological mandates. We would be forced to have ethical discussions on the powerful AnthroSophic Star and I AM molding forces from above, overcoming the former racial forces from below. This would mean the more our depth of clarity penetrates to the mighty unfallen model Steiner offered the richer we all take Sophia into ourselves.

7 Races, 7 Stars and the Dragon craving to take away the Astral Star and Ego forces which will grow in us, as the Dragon and the 7 Stars becomes vivid, even as we discuss these backward forces with a real believer. Below understand the crisis of the AnthroSophic shift from the dominating Etheric to the New and sustaining I AM from the Astral. A new umbilical cord based on our livingly shared research and standing on Steiner's Shoulders, is what we are living with from the horrific collapse of Germany.

Verses one and two

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. This scene opens with a vision of a woman in heaven."

I just want to know why we don't set our swords in the ground and from every ammo dump hit them with their failure to grasp, not only history, but what a human being is? That is the Dwarf in me talking, but really, I just prefer heart interest and joy in all that we have as the Treasure of the human spirit.

Entering the Incarnation process, contracting at birth and expanding as we pass through the Spiritual World after death and re-entering incarnation and once again shivered back into new bones and blood are part of our unique biological and spiritual mysteries. How we look upon our bodily processes allows us to grasp what we take into our mouths and what comes out of our mouths as food for educating upcoming souls, what food do we deliver to them and what food do we take in? It means redefining what Food really means and this brings us to our response to Ahriman's question. Man does not live by Bread alone.

Light feeds us;
Emotions feed us;
Thoughts feed us;
Air feeds us;

You are what you Eat!

Bradford

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From: VALENTINA BRUNETTI
Date: Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:03 am
Subject: R: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] grateful graduate/Reckoning with Steiner

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From: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] grateful graduate/Reckoning with Steiner

Following some expanded notes:

Posted to waldorf-critics On 2/9/99 by Dan Dugan...

Cult-like characteristics of Anthroposophy include:

* It clings to rejected knowledge.
(The heart is not a pump, etc.)

Dearest Mr .Riley.

I have been interested again in this new case of obsession by our common Italian friend. Well, this case about DD is much more complicated than the PS's one, about whom we have discovered the right therapy. IN the case of mr. Dugan we see mixed together various beliefs, faith in Modern Science as a mean to grasp the Reality for instance, all converging in a crux obsession about "cults". He sees "cults" in every world's corner.

Also in this case I have organized an International web sympoium with my favourite fellows psychiatrists.
In the beginning there was an intention to follow the same therapy as in PS's case aka duck-bill's piss in the brain, but our brilliant Frenchmen colleague Mr.Peticons deLa Baguette made an asthonishing discovery. In this case there is NO BRAIN AT ALL TO BE SPRINKLED. Not to say that this guy got a total empty brain-box, not at all.

DD shows inside himself a kind of earthworm's cloaca, from the head to the anal orifice that in some strange way replaces the function of the brain, also as a "thinking machine" and this fact is able to help us to understand why the quality of his "thinking" is so feeble.

Well, having said so,,, which therapy?

We have to study the case in deep and so we kindly ask you if it's possible to get some little, little piece of DD's anal orifice of head (that is the same in any case) in order to have the chance to create an healthy therapy for this unlucky guy.

Yours Faithfully
Prof. A:F:Scaccabarozzi
St.Cunegonda's Hospital ROME

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