Stir, Velocity and Heart

 

From: Danny F.
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:47 am
Subject: Stir, Velocity and Heart

Rudolf Steiner's

Man: Hieroglyph of the Universe

LECTURE FOURTEEN

[ Lecture: 14th May, 1920 | Dornach | GA0201 ]

An excerpt:

"The two streams flow therefore into one another. Or imagine a wind whirling with a certain velocity from above downwards, and another from below upwards, and they whirl into one another. If we take the difference of velocity between the downward and the upward current, relating the latter to the former in such a way that a difference in velocity results bearing the same relationship as the difference in velocity between the stellar time and the solar time, then through the rotation a condensation arises which receives its own distinct form. One whirls downwards, and because the other whirls upwards driving with a greater velocity, the lessee. velocity would be that driving downwards, which gives here (see diagram) through the collision, a condensation, a certain figure. This figure, disregarding imperfections, is a silhouette of the human heart.

Thus, through the meeting of the Lucifer stream and the Jehovah stream, it is possible to construct exactly the figure of the human heart. It is constructed simply out of the revelations of the Universe. It is absolutely true; the Sun-movement is an expression of a slower movement which meets a quicker movement, and we are so inserted into the two movements that the silhouette of our heart arises; and on to it the rest of the human form is fitted. We see from this what Mysteries are actually hidden in the Cosmos, for as soon as we admit we have two astronomies, which work together in their results — what is the result? The human heart. The whole outlook of modern natural science is based on the fact that it does not distinguish these two streams from one another. This brings upon it the tragic fate, that the harmonious working is split apart, leaving on the one hand, the events in Nature, as reasoned by Julius Robert Mayer; and on the other hand, the `secondary results', because people are unable to unite cosmically in thought what works together from these two streams. Thus for man's thinking the world falls asunder in two extremes.

Here lies the cosmic aspect of something tremendously significant in regard to the understanding of Man and the Universe. Unless man can renew, on that basis of thought which we are giving today, the knowledge contained in the ancient Mysteries at the time when man was awaiting Christianity — as I have described in the book, Christianity as Mystical Fact — unless we can bring this ancient knowledge to life in a present form, as must be done, all knowledge remains an illusion; for that which comes to expression with such clarity in the human heart is to be found everywhere. Everywhere the events that happen are explainable through the union of two streams, arising from different sources.

In the insertion of the Mystery of Golgotha into the evolution of our Earth, we have to do with an Event of a totally different nature from all the rest of the happenings of Earth-evolution; and this we shall never understand unless we begin by learning to understand the Cosmos itself."

http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/Places/Dornach/19200514p01.html

And Dottie, I'm back to you as soon as I can!
(My mother is visiting me this weekend. So, after that moment...)

From work I post now this message,
Having many ideas in reserve concerning your questions!

See you later!

Dan

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:42 pm
Subject: Re: Stir, Velocity and Heart

Danny:

And Dottie, I'm back to you as soon as I can!
(My mother is visiting me this weekend. So, after that moment...)

Dearest Danny! I am so excited you are visiting with your mother. She must adore you!

In looking what you wrote of the heart I am wondering what you make of Mr. Prokofieff's understanding of a 'new organ' in the concept of a thinking heart? I had been stating that I felt like my heart is a thinking heart for a few years now, kind of got laughed off the critics list not to mention the Ark, and here he says that this is the 'new organ' as one grounds onself in Dr. Steiners work. Well, maybe that we 'grow it' in a sense if I can use a George Bush phrase:) kind of like we are growing the econonmy. Talk about living as Alice, whew.

Anyhow, what you write about the Luciferic stream mixing with the other stream has me wondering if Mr. Prokofieff is speaking of the same understanding. Have you read his work on the Heavenly Sophia? I wish Kim was here he would love this.

My best to you and your mother having a fabulous time together,

Love,
Dottie

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From: danifyou
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:16 am
Subject: Platonism, Magdalen and Socrates' "Imaginary Boy"/ Dottie

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De : dottie zold

Danny:

And Dottie, I'm back to you as soon as I can!
(My mother is visiting me this weekend. So, after that moment...)

Dearest Danny! I am so excited you are visiting with your mother. She must adore you!

In looking what you wrote of the heart I am wondering what you make of Mr. Prokofieff's understanding of a 'new organ' in the concept of a thinking heart? I had been stating that I felt like my heart is a thinking heart for a few years now, kind of got laughed off the critics list not to mention the Ark, and here he says that this is the 'new organ' as one grounds onself in Dr. Steiners work.

Hi Dottie, I do have a little time
For a quick one (post) this noon... :)
'Ground' is a very good word when you talk
About the 'Very Resolute' Rudolf Steiner!
Think of MICHAEL
Think of the Cleansing
Of the Supersensible,
The Charge against the Dragon!

I used myself many times the expression 'Second FLOOR'...
Speak of Heart Thinking,
Speak of 'The Promise'...
Such lines from the movie title same
With Nicholson as The Hunter
Chasing the "Giant Killer"...
Being asked by the mother
Of the child who's been killed:
"Are there really such Monsters?"
And him to reply by the affirmative
And not long after to assert
In what will become
The Mood of the Warrior,
Making the Promise will be Resolve
To find who's done the crime as has
Been evoked at some point with a phrase
Saying who was to be for this Quest his Ally:
"Michael is Upstair"...

Dottie:

Well, maybe that we 'grow it' in a sense if I can use a George Bush phrase:) kind of like we are growing the econonmy. Talk about living as Alice, whew.

Anyhow, what you write about the Luciferic stream mixing with the other stream has me wondering if Mr. Prokofieff is speaking of the same understanding. Have you read his work on the Heavenly Sophia? I wish Kim was here he would love this.

Yes I did in fact read it about 5 years ago;
Thinking myself so smart I decided
Twould not be a problem to give it
To a friend in the US; while I forgot
A few things that would be important
To keep in mind now, such as which
Of the Magis was once Skythianos...
And the other ones as well...

Since I lost contact with this person
I have no way now to retrieve this information
- As it is written - in the book of Prokofieff...
Unless, unless...
Dottie says! ;)

Dottie:

My best to you and your mother having a fabulous time together,

Thanks, it is where I shall start my text
Proper here regarding my title-subject...

On Mary Magdalen and the *7*th Mystery

Steiner's An Esoteric Cosmology
'Redemption and Liberation'
Lecture XVII - elib and excerpt:

"They have been called the 'seven
inexpressible' or 'unutterable' mysteries.
( . . .) These mysteries are as follow:

1. The mystery of the Abyss
2. The mystery of Number (which can be studied in Pythagorean philosophy)
3. The mystery of Alchemy (we can learn something of these mysteries in the works of Paracelsus and Jacob Boehme)
4. The mystery of Death
5. The mystery of Evil (to which reference is made in the Apocalypse)
6. The mystery of the Word, of the Logos
7. The Mystery of Divine Bliss (this mystery is the most occult)"

So now you see why the idea
Of a Jacob Boehme is hinted in 'Heliobas'
And how the Chemical Wedding Resound
As Mystery also of the Necklace Glandular
Venusian Seraphimic - Uranian the Bliss -
Such as experienced a St-Francis of Assisi...

Gnostic Gospel of Thomas
On the Etherization
State of Integration
Soft and Gentle -
Being born Angel
Before being one
On Jupiter; thus
A name such as 'IMPULSE'
For the Christ's Deeds on Earth:

"(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled
He said to his disciples," These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom. They said to him" Shall we then enter as children, enter the kingdom?"

*[On the HermeAphrodite;
Marriage - our Physical
To be a Body Ethereal
Fashioned - in Christ we Form
From the Conscious us in Mineral Platform
The Transition to the next level of Evolution]
(*DF, my insertion.)
It continues:

"When you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then you will enter the kingdom".

That which is a description - forecast
Of the reentrance proper actual
In the Life Sphere - Christ in the Etheric
Leads if you listened made these teachings
Your Will now Reap Shambala
And the Second Nature New Clairvoyance...
Micro-Macro-Anthropos Supersensible Process.

And this is where we go back hence
To the Symposium and Socrates
As we Golden Age Moral tend, and
Lo see how the Future is prepared!

Who requested the Subject
To be talked in the first place?
Is it Friedrich H. or Phaedrus?
F. H. does stand in fact for two men...
Eryximachus to be later Hardenberg
And the guy who planted a Tree when
The French Revolution occured - Hölderlin.

And why is that?
Because Peter has always been a wrathful man...
And who was Peter once?
--> Achilles and Moses.

Phaedrus in 'Phaedrus'
Speaking to the individual
Who will later be known as Tolstoy:

"Rather I would have you consider that from this place we stir not until you have unbosomed yourself of the speech; for here are we all alone, and I am stronger, remember, and younger than you: wherefore prepend, and do not compel me to use violence."

And back or forth to around the 1800 turn
We do get Fat Boy/Little Boy Jesus
The Nathan Soul to enter as Fire
In the Central Nervous system of F.H.
The one living as the other one who died
In 1801 was to stay around
As a "Rabbit" "Imaginary Boy"...
Phaedrus had finally reached
Divine Madness - Fission
And Fusion in the Brain...

Look at Babies as they are
A 'Unified' "Ball" of Energy...
What would it be if you "dropped"
Such an entity in a man elderly...
The Structural is fractured or "schi"ed...

And what do they also do the babies?
Yep, 'Twist and Shout' kind of "Madly"...

To what aim specific a Nathan Soul
"Lazaruzation" of such an Individual?

Steiner about the Maitreya Buddha:

"Thus does he prepare for a great event. This will be as follows: The old ego passes out and another ego then enters. And this may be such an individuality as Moses, Abraham, Elijah. This ego will then be active for a certain time in this body; thus can that take place which must take place in order to prepare the Maitreya Buddha. For the rest of his life he lives with this [new] ego which enters at that moment" (lecture of 5 November 1911, Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz, RSP 1984).

'The Wings' on the Youth Impulse:
"When the rain exploded
In a mighty crash
And we fell into the sun

Band on the run"

Who and Lennon about the 9
Worlds and Odin - the Buddha
Reference again and these curious
"Mantras baby-talks"?

'Dream #9'

"Took a walk down the street
Thus the heat whispered trees
I thought I could hear(hear, hear, hear)
Somebody call out my name
As it started to rain ( . . . )

Two spirits dancing so strange
Ah! bawakawa poussa, poussa

Dream, dream away
Magic in the air (. . .)

On a river of sound
Through the mirror go round"

Other sounds - Harrison
Vs. Krishna the Radiance
(Macrocosmic Nathan Soul) aspect;
FLUID also in Micro-Man as his last
Version of 'My Sweet Lord' testifies
In 2000 the remake: SLIDE guitar...

But this one also is a Krishna
"Twist and Shout"...:

'Wah-Wah'

"And I'm thinking of you
And the things that we used to do
(. . . )

You made me such a big star
Being there at the right time"...

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From: dottie zold
Date: Sun Feb 29, 2004 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Platonism, Magdalen and Socrates' "Imaginary Boy"/ Dottie

Danny:)

Gnostic Gospel of Thomas
On the Etherization
State of Integration
Soft and Gentle -
Being born Angel
Before being one
On Jupiter; thus
A name such as 'IMPULSE'
For the Christ's Deeds on Earth:

"(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled
He said to his disciples," These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom. They said to him" Shall we then enter as children, enter the kingdom?"

*[On the HermeAphrodite;
Marriage - our Physical
To be a Body Ethereal
Fashioned - in Christ we Form
From the Conscious us in Mineral Platform
The Transition to the next level of Evolution]
(*DF, my insertion.)
It continues:

"When you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then you will enter the kingdom".

Danny, in here is the mystery that Prokofieff does not share. And that is because it is not time. It seems to me what we are talking about is the Spirit Man. And who shall lead there first for us, after Christ of course who has, is Anthroposophia. And in here I find the mystery of the Magdalene unfolded before my very eyes.

I just paid $2.29 for gas and it is so not a good day to be in Hollywood and need to get around with a car:(

All my best,
d

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From: danifyou
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 8:09 am
Subject: Rép. : Platonism, Magdalene and Krishna the "Imaginary Boy".

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De : dottie zold

Danny:)

Gnostic Gospel of Thomas
On the Etherization
State of Integration
Soft and Gentle -
Being born Angel
Before being one
On Jupiter; thus
A name such as 'IMPULSE'
For the Christ's Deeds on Earth:

"(22) Jesus saw infants being suckled
He said to his disciples," These infants being suckled are like those who enter the kingdom. They said to him" Shall we then enter as children, enter the kingdom?"

*[On the HermeAphrodite;
Marriage - our Physical
To be a Body Ethereal
Fashioned - in Christ we Form
From the Conscious us in Mineral Platform
The Transition to the next level of Evolution]
(*DF, my insertion.)
It continues:

"When you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye, and a hand in place of a hand and a foot in place of a foot, and a likeness in place of a likeness; then you will enter the kingdom".

Danny, in here is the mystery that Prokofieff does not share. And that is because it is not time. It seems to me what we are talking about is the Spirit Man.

Hi Dottie,

Ultimatly, Ultimatly!

But twould then be as a Consequential=20
And Monitored by Higher Beings;
For it doesn't go that we perform
Anything there as we can act on
Moving a limb or go from one thought
To the other, change our emotional states etc.

The core of the above would rather be -
As you have said with Hegel's philosophy;
The turning point Intellectual if it goes
Plunging more and more into the Senses
As to being "Absorbed" by them - listen,
As to being Enclosed in a Silica Prison!
The Spatial Element winning over Man
And his higher principles, which of course
Involves him: Self! Being Intrinsic Spiritual
Though in a Mineral world Fallen....=20

Or take hold of oneself in TIME...
And this is where it becomes very interesting
To go in the place of the brain
As though to make in it a Fission Crisis
Through the Light White Astral; which
Reminds me of the words of Pink Floyd's=20
'Astronomy Domine': "Stars can frighten"...
And "THE BLUE YOU ONCE KNEW".
The Sound Resounded, but Distortion
A Knot - Lucifer Trapped the Light,
Shattered; Ahriman comes later
So to end with the ICY WATER;
Rocks, which where once the Spirit Sounds
That came out of the WORD=20
Who got Configurated Manifold
Through a whole Symphonic Hierarchical...

Our physical body inside an Etheric one Formative;
Chiefly Musical the Chemical Ether Rings;
Don't we enter here in the Chymical Wedding?
Horus-Rosenkreutz the son of Isis
Again BODY OF LOVE ETHERIC!

Why did John was Christ's Beloved?
Could it be of his ability to transform
Wisdom into Love? "that which is written
In our hearts" - we arrive at the Child.
Again what is the Pecularity of the SUN?
It streams United the Etheric and the Astral
Which has for Result of Productsing Special
A Unique Metal: GOLD. And a little Images
Calculation does then equal to Supersensible=20
The Heart of Gold Moral the Age SOLAR
INTEGRATION which will be for us later
The Earth's Embodiment called VENUS;
Which Corresponds to what the Greeks
Called CHRISTOS: Buddhi the Life-Spirit.
This is the far it leads straightfully
The Famous Connection Magdalene,
Lazarus and John the Baptist...

Who could not see that the Lotus Feet
Of Krishna finds an Echo in the Scene
Of Mary Magdalene washing Christ's ones
With her hair? That's in direct Relation
With the Platonic Love Divine Higher Venus!=20
Something not Sexual, but Pure and Celestial!
Again the State Previous to Astral - 14 years
Old it correspond; thus the Young and Sweet
Foremost the Infant - before the Teen-age Split
Moon Enters Projecting you to the ground
Of the Pulsions reproductive urges=20
Man Kama-Matter association...=20

But redirection of Desires =E0 la Buddha
The Astral reverse it's descent away from EA;
Cat-Horus/Catharis a Change Beneficial
Occur the Occult Transformation Impact;
The 'I' in Christ 'I AM'ize the Sheaths, that
Even down unto the Physical by Mediation
Of the Etheric you Form and Hold a Fact
Of Transubstantitation Reach Deep Within
The Structural Finished Work of the Gods;
As Christ Revealed the Making of Everything
New - by the Power of His Mighty Exalted Ego.

The Drama Central of Man is told many ways
By stories Imaginative Source same - though
Can get many twists and variations fidel
To the Spirit Initial; such as 'K-PAX' for example...

Compare with Look at this Primal;
(Steiner's: The Gospel of St LUKE)

"... in order then, when mankind would be=20
in greatest need, to descend into the earthly
sphere, The Being of spiritual light,=20
that Being who was concealed behind
the physical Sun, remained aloft in
the sphere of the spirit. He abides
in the heavenly spheres and descends,
if mankind should so need, in order
that human beings might again be borne
up into the spiritual worlds."

Dottie:

And who shall lead there first for us, after Christ of course who has, is Anthroposophia. And in here I find the mystery of the Magdalene unfolded before my very eyes.

I just paid $2.29 for gas and it is so not a good day to be in Hollywood and need to get around with a car:(

I paid $7 for a ticket to 'The Passion of the Christ'
And got 90% blood effusion images=20
Through out the film. That which made
It bearable was the 10% of Christ's Words
And the Togetherness with the Disciples...

It seems people are always confined
Together, cluttered, small scope, no width;
So that the Concept comes quick
For such a film - in mind: --> NARROW.

You are bound to remember=20
And be disgusted by the noise
Of the barbwired whip that gets stuck
On the side of the rib cage of Jesus
As a whole expanse of flesh get ripped
Making appear the bones - which you will
See again many times in this Gory movie.

Go rent 'K-PAX' instead -
May you want the Christ's Consciousness
Felt, instead of the Demonological=20
Bloody Passion of Gibson...

All my best to you Dottie
And listees; keep the good stuff coming! :)

Danny

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From: dottie zold
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: Platonism, Magdalen and Socrates' "Imaginary Boy"/ Dottie

Danny:

And back or forth to around the 1800 turn
We do get Fat Boy/Little Boy Jesus
The Nathan Soul to enter as Fire
In the Central Nervous system of F.H.
The one living as the other one who died
In 1801 was to stay around
As a "Rabbit" "Imaginary Boy"...
Phaedrus had finally reached
Divine Madness - Fission
And Fusion in the Brain...

Look at Babies as they are
A 'Unified' "Ball" of Energy...
What would it be if you "dropped"
Such an entity in a man elderly...
The Structural is fractured or "schi"ed...

And what do they also do the babies?
Yep, 'Twist and Shout' kind of "Madly"...

To what aim specific a Nathan Soul
"Lazaruzation" of such an Individual?

Danny, what are you exactly trying to say here? In reading Heavenly Sophia and looking at your words here I feel as if there is an intermingling of thoughts and I can not put my finger on it exactly but it is in the 'air' so to speak.

Danny:

Steiner about the Maitreya Buddha:

"Thus does he prepare for a great event. This will be as follows: The old ego passes out and another ego then enters. And this may be such an individuality as Moses, Abraham, Elijah. This ego will then be active for a certain time in this body; thus can that take place which must take place in order to prepare the Maitreya Buddha. For the rest of his life he lives with this [new] ego which enters at that moment" (lecture of 5 November 1911, Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz, RSP 1984).

Danny, in looking at the fact that, just for Anthroposophia alone, that every one hundred years of ours is one for Her, do you think that it is the same for the Maitreya Buddha? And in this are we speaking of the same person, forgive my ignorance, who lived one hundred years before Jesus and who some might surmise as being the Lazarus man?

Where is this Maitreya Buddha, in what sphere are we talking about? Or maybe I am confusing it with Jesu Ben Padira? Am I? Are they one and the same in the past present and future of our Earth?

Dottie

'The Wings' on the Youth Impulse:
"When the rain exploded
In a mighty crash
And we fell into the sun

Band on the run"

Who and Lennon about the 9
Worlds and Odin - the Buddha
Reference again and these curious
"Mantras baby-talks"?

'Dream #9'

"Took a walk down the street
Thus the heat whispered trees
I thought I could hear(hear, hear, hear)
Somebody call out my name
As it started to rain ( . . . )

Two spirits dancing so strange
Ah! bawakawa poussa, poussa

Dream, dream away
Magic in the air (. . .)

On a river of sound
Through the mirror go round"

Other sounds - Harrison
Vs. Krishna the Radiance
(Macrocosmic Nathan Soul) aspect;
FLUID also in Micro-Man as his last
Version of 'My Sweet Lord' testifies
In 2000 the remake: SLIDE guitar...

But this one also is a Krishna
"Twist and Shout"...:

'Wah-Wah'

"And I'm thinking of you
And the things that we used to do
(. . . )

You made me such a big star
Being there at the right time"...

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From: danifyou
Date: Mon Mar 1, 2004 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: Platonism, Magdalene and Nathan Soul the "Imaginary Boy"

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De : dottie zold

Danny:

And back or forth to around the 1800 turn
We do get Fat Boy/Little Boy Jesus
The Nathan Soul to enter as Fire
In the Central Nervous system of F.H.
The one living as the other one who died
In 1801 was to stay around
As a "Rabbit" "Imaginary Boy"...
Phaedrus had finally reached
Divine Madness - Fission
And Fusion in the Brain...

Look at Babies as they are
A 'Unified' "Ball" of Energy...
What would it be if you "dropped"
Such an entity in a man elderly...
The Structural is fractured or "schi"ed...

And what do they also do the babies?
Yep, 'Twist and Shout' kind of "Madly"...

To what aim specific a Nathan Soul
"Lazaruzation" of such an Individual?

Danny, what are you exactly trying to say here?

Hello :)

One F.H. : Friedrich H=F6lderlin
Another F.H. : Friedrich Hardenberg

In 1801 Hardenberg dies; this Individual
Is also known as Novalis; whom Steiner
Told us was once John the Baptist. From
There we go on to the other Friedrich, but
Who is this one? None other than Peter;
Found to have been also Moses once,
Himself proclaimer of the "I AM the IAM"
Through the Reflection of the Moon Elohim
Jehovah. Now Elijah was also known
As the Prophet of FIRE; Speak of Transfiguration
And Spiritual Light; Speak of Gethsemane
Also and get an Idea of the scale=20
Of what we talk about regarding Impact
On the Brain and it's Thawing Intense...

Try Thinking with a Damaged one...
You may not be found coherent no more;
But lo the Opportunity to work
On the Etheric Thinking out of the sudden
"Brainlessness" engendered, as the body
Of the Formative Forces always come
With it's Healingness covering the "holes"
When there is a bodily destruction.
There is thus a mingling of Matter
And Ethereal, a Sculpting Design
Taken from the Astral "Blueprinter"...=20
In this case of the Nathan Soul
Right down into the Fabric of Matter.
We are entitled to call it a Raising Similar=20
To John the Apostle aka Lazarus helped
By the Individuality of John the Baptist
Out of the Pure Supersensible Togetherness.

The Egos this time different,
Reaching out to Christ out of ones=20
Own effort drawing as much
As possible as an IN-FUSION=20
Into the Finished Structural
"Carpentry" Work of the Gods;
A WILL EFFORT and Trial for the 'I'
Trying to Shape with Ether a Vessel
Out of a Void of Nature Biological usable.

Socrates did his own way prepared such
An event when with Imagination he talked
To Phaedrus in opposition to the Script
"Brainy" of Lysias, son of CEPHALUS.
In these times names had much meaning...
And here we deal with 'ENKEPHALOS'
Which stands for the flesh within the Skull.
Who was Phaedrus? Once Moses and Achilles.

Back to the other one, a fragment C.V. biographical:
Elijah has been known to raise a widow's son;
But New Testament and Youth Impulse;
Krishna the Nathan Soul must be "Implanted"
In order to re-go Paradisal Lift ourselves out
Of the Fall, as much as the Ego of Christ...
This is not first time Moses worked=20
With Elijah-John the Baptist; for
If you look at the Old Testament
You will find a guy called Phinehas
Who happened to be a previous
Incarnation of John the Baptist, Raphael etc.

Dottie:

In reading Heavenly Sophia and looking at your words here I feel as if there is an intermingling of thoughts and I can not put my finger on it exactly but it is in the 'air' so to speak.

The connection is also quite Arthurial
As much as there was in Chr=E9tien de Troyes'
Version of the Grail a Virgin who was said
To go on her life without laugh, until the best
Knight was to make her do so; twas Parsifal.
So when Dottie says ":)"=20
Lo, something in the 'air'... ;)

I have come to understand Caspar Hauser
As this very Parsifal; being actually on Earth...
As I have met him at some point in my travels...
You have no idea how a Fool=20
And a Kid he still is my friend! :)

Danny:

Steiner about the Maitreya Buddha:

"Thus does he prepare for a great event. This will be as follows: The old ego passes out and another ego then enters. And this may be such an individuality as Moses, Abraham, Elijah. This ego will then be active for a certain time in this body; thus can that take place which must take place in order to prepare the Maitreya Buddha. For the rest of his life he lives with this [new] ego which enters at that moment" (lecture of 5 November 1911, Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz, RSP 1984).


Danny, in looking at the fact that, just for Anthroposophia alone, that every one hundred years of ours is one for Her, do you think that it is the same for the Maitreya Buddha?

I don't know Dottie about that peculiarness
Of this cycle; but 100 years seems too short
A laps for one person coming back over and over...
What I know more is that for the one
To be the Maitreya Buddha there is
A Special WORD Training; as his Mission
Will be One of SPEECH...

Dottie:

And in this are we speaking of the same person, forgive my ignorance, who lived one hundred years before Jesus and who some might surmise as being the Lazarus man?

The name that I know myself is Jeshu Ben Pandira.
As for Lazarus this is the Apostle John.

Dottie:

Where is this Maitreya Buddha, in what sphere are we talking about?

This Bodhisattva will become Buddha
And therefore incarnate no more after
In a physical body mineral...

Dottie:

Or maybe I am confusing it with Jesu Ben Padira? Am I? Are they one and the same in the past present and future of our Earth?

That's the name I know too. :)

Let me be more talkative when my mother
Will be back once more into her own house;
For I cannot concentrate very much as she talks... ;)

Talk to you later Dottie!

Danny

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