All I want is the Truth; just give
me some Truth
From: danifyou
Date: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:07 am
Subject: All I want is the Truth; just give me some Truth
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De : Common Dreams
Common Dreams * Breaking News & Views for the Progressive
Community
Says:
25.March.2004 * www.commondreams.org
CLAIM vs. FACT
Bush Statement of March 25, 2004:
CLAIM:
“Had I known that the enemy was going to use airplanes to
strike America, to attack us, I would have used every resource,
every asset, every power of this government to protect the American
people.''
- President Bush, 3/25/04
FACT:
On August 6, 2001, President Bush personally “received a
one-and-a-half page briefing advising him that Osama bin Laden
was capable of a major strike against the US, and that the plot
could include the hijacking of an American airplane."
- Dateline NBC, 9/10/02
FACT:
U.S. and Italian officials were warned in July 2001 that Islamic
terrorists had considered "crashing an airliner into the
Genoa summit of industrialized nations."
- LA Times, 9/27/01
FACT:
A 1999 report prepared by the Library of Congress for the National
Intelligence Council "warned that Osama bin Laden's terrorists
could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings
like the Pentagon." The report specifically said, "Suicide
bomber(s) belonging to al-Qaida's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land
an aircraft packed with high explosives…into the Pentagon,
the headquarters of the CIA, or the White House."
- CBS News, 5/17/02
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From: dottie zold
Date: Fri Mar 26, 2004 7:49 am
Subject: Re: All I want is the Truth; just give me some Truth
Now this I can see as truth and not propoganda.
Thanks Danny, I did not know of these statements on the news
and probably because I do not watch television. So, thanks.
d
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From: Frank Thomas Smith
Date: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:33 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: All I want is the Truth;
just give me some Truth
Dottie:
Now this I can see as truth and not propoganda.
Thanks Danny, I did not know of these statements on the news
and probably because I do not watch television. So, thanks.
I also wonder why Bradford sends us this nut
factory libertarian bullshit disguised as facts.
Frank
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Mar 26, 2004 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: All I want is the Truth; just give me some Truth
Frank Thomas Smith wrote:
I also wonder why Bradford sends us this
nut factory libertarian bullshit disguised as facts.
Frank
http://www.rense.com/general50/notan.htm
There is something called
NORAD, The North American Defense Command, which came into being
somewhere back near the 1950's. Its headquarters today is located
beneath a mountain in Colorado. Since its creation the United
States has spent untold trillions of taxpayer dollars just to
prevent something like 911 from ever happening here.
Everything that flies in or
over this country is tracked by both civilian (FAA) radar, and
military (NORAD) radar. This system is vast and intricate and
while it is not foolproof, it is sufficient to defang what took
place on September 11th.
The procedure works like this.
Every aircraft files a flight plan, prior to takeoff, and has
to check in with Air Traffic Control upon leaving the ground.
During the flight the aircraft is tracked from takeoff to landing
by elements of the FAA, but it is never out of range or vision
of military radar.
During the cold war the NORAD
system was used to defend the nation's airspace as certainly
and as swiftly as any traffic-cop would, when using a speed trap
on a highway. Everything that flew had to be identified and cleared
to continue throughout its flight by the military. If the course
or the intent of the aircraft was in doubt the US Air Force sent
up fighters to investigate. The time lag for identification to
be made was 3 minutes. That was over the United States, on US
flights being made here, by anyone who happened to be piloting
the aircraft - so long as that aircraft appeared on radar.
NORAD is under the direction
of the Department of the Air Force, which is still under the
direction of the Department of Defense-who is directly responsible
to the President of the United States. The President is ultimately
responsible for the air defense of the continental United States
and Alaska and Hawaii - in peace or war.
It should be noted that after
the 1st attack upon the WTC, when the towers survived, there
was from that day until 911, intensified air patrols that monitored
the airspace surrounding the World Trade Center. For some reason
those aircraft were not present on that September morning.
On that morning, after air
traffic control knew that the aircraft had been hijacked, and
especially after the first plane hit the towers - US Air Force
fighter aircraft should have immediately been scrambled (sent
to intercept the remaining hijacked planes). What was taking
place had to have appeared on dozens of radarscopes in both the
New York and Washington areas. Once the planes had been identified
as the planes that had been taken over by unknown hijackers,
the chain of command would have automatically been engaged with
requests for decisions as to how to respond. Simultaneously,
messages should have come from NORAD headquarters to the White
House, or Air Force One - wherever the president was at the time
- requesting orders for what the fighters should do regarding
the potentially hostile aircraft. Yet instead of plopping his
ass in front of a video monitor for a teleconference with his
air defense chiefs, as well as the Joint Chiefs of Staff (which
would have been done under any hostile attack situation) - Bush
kept reading to a bunch of second-graders in Florida for an additional
twenty minutes, after the first plane hit.
On 911, no fighters appeared
in the skies over New York or Washington. The White House said
there were none available - the reality was much different. There
were at least a hundred interceptors available, but none took
off, until after the attacks were completed. In the 1950's the
only way that could have happened was if the President of the
United States had order the US Air Force to "stand-down."
And to this day neither the White House, nor the Secretary of
Defense has ever offered an explanation of why this happened
as it did.
When Bush finally did re-board
Air Force One, he basically ran to Omaha to hide in the fortified
bunkers that used to belong to Strategic Air Command. This president
needs to explain his actions to the entire nation - because it
appears that he is guilty of cowardice in the face of the enemy.
If Bush is innocent of such an action then why has he yet to
tell the people about his actions on that day: especially given
the number of people that died while his administration fiddled
around in completely inept confusion?
Those Air Force Generals in
charge of Operations on that day need to be subpoenaed to testify
before Congress in open session, to explain why all the rest
of those in the second tower and the Pentagon, as well as those
on the Pennsylvania flight had to die as well as those who were
in the first tower.
Rumsfeld wants to claim that
the whole affair was a matter for the civilian authorities, as
if a civil crime was in progress, and so 911 was not within his
jurisdiction, the DOD being the US military, was not to interfere.
That - is a flat out LIE!
Moreover, if this was a civilian
matter, then why did the United States retaliate with the US
military for a civilian crime? Also where did our dictator get
off making this a global problem, after having cast himself in
the role of the leader of a Crusade to exterminate the evil infidels
that had militarily attacked the USA? Let's not forget Guantanimo,
and all those people who are charged as being enemy combatants.
If this was a civil crime and not a military operation, then
how could we have taken military prisoners and held them for
years without charges?
The Cabal can't have it both
ways. If this was an attack upon this nation, an act of war that
required the United States to invade another country: then where
was the military here at home? Where was our military that we
have spent trillions on when they were needed? Or if 911 was
a civil crime, as Donald Rumsfeld says: "a law enforcement
issue," then how can Bush defend what we did by way of retaliation?
This nation needs to stop
the bullshit and get to the heart of this matter! The Department
of Defense is responsible for the air space over the continental
United States, and that's a fact. Failure to interrupt the attacks
of 911 in the hour and forty-seven minutes that they waited for
the attacks to come to an end - amounts to the murder of thousands
of additional American civilians.
Maybe the first attack might
not have been preventable, but everything after that first plane
hit should not have happened in the way that it did. The people
responsible for this crime against the people of this nation
need to be held accountable, and that would be the President
of the United States, who was reading a book to second graders,
the Vice-President who from his secure location, supposedly intervened
to stop the interceptors from flying, and Donald Rumsfeld for
trying to cover it all up.
This action could begin to
bring closure to these events-and the time to do this is now!
kirwan
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From: holderlin66
Date: Fri Mar 26, 2004 10:08 pm
Subject: Re: All I want is the Truth; just give me some Truth
Europeans unite against
Bush
25.03.04 15:36, ny 26.03.04 10:00
Several European politicians
are coming together in an effort to throw Bush out of office,
on "behalf of Europe and the world".
A new European campaign against
Bush will be launched in a couple of weeks. The founder is the
former vice president of the Young Liberals in Norway, Knud E.
Berthelsen, and he has joined forces with politicians all over
Europe for one reason:
"We cannot just sit back
and watch Bush destroy the whole world. If there is only one
political issue that we all agree on in Europe, it's this one,"
Berthelsen said to TV 2 Nettavisen.
Nobody loves Bush
Berthelsen said he firmly believes the campaign will attract
massive support:
"Do you really know anybody
who likes Bush? How many have you heard saying something bad
about him? Even people who don't care about anything, dislike
him. This goes for all of Europe."
The campaign will launch its
website after Easter. They plan to sell t-shirts online, and
people can make donations, which will all go to the campaign
to remove Bush "on behalf of Europe and the world".
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From: Tarjei Straume
Date: Sat Mar 27, 2004 9:17 am
Subject: Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: All I want is the Truth;
just give me some Truth
At 07:08 27.03.2004, Bradford wrote:
Nobody loves Bush
>Nobody loves Bush
His family and friends love him.
Berthelsen said he firmly
believes the campaign will attract massive support:
"Do you really know
anybody who likes Bush?
The Dalai Llama likes Bush. I can't say I
dislike Bush. That doesn't mean I don't think he's a simpleton
and a butcher with an unprecedented record of executions as governor
of Texas.
http://www.uncletaz.com/bush/
Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/
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